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‎12-12-2002 08:51 PM
‎12-12-2002 08:51 PM

Program to copy files deleted from network

Every now and then, myself and others accidently or without thinking, delete some files on the network. Date and weeks later want to retrieve back for some reason. I know it is possible to recover from our network backup. The trouble is, first of all, there are thousands of deleted filesn and you need the IT person to search the archived tape and fnd the certain file. The proccess is extremely slow. Since each local station usually have a large harddrive, wouldn't it be nice to save a copy of files which that particular station deleted. So, whenever the person of that station need to recover certain file, it would make the job a lot easier. Is there anything out there to perform this task ?
Or may be have some other suggestion. Thanks.
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Anonymous
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‎12-12-2002 09:24 PM
‎12-12-2002 09:24 PM

IF you have Express Tools, MOVEBAK and set it to be on the local drive. That
assumes you have BAK creation turned on, and you have Express Tools
http://www.autodesk.com/expresstools

--
Dean Saadallah
http://www.pendean.com
LT Express Utilities
http://www.pendean.com/ltexpress
Expanded Links Pages
http://www.pendean.com/lt/links.htm
--

"BenC" wrote in message
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> Every now and then, myself and others accidently or without thinking,
delete some files on the network. Date and weeks later want to retrieve back
for some reason. I know it is possible to recover from our network backup.
The trouble is, first of all, there are thousands of deleted filesn and you
need the IT person to search the archived tape and fnd the certain file. The
proccess is extremely slow. Since each local station usually have a large
harddrive, wouldn't it be nice to save a copy of files which that particular
station deleted. So, whenever the person of that station need to recover
certain file, it would make the job a lot easier. Is there anything out
there to perform this task ?
> Or may be have some other suggestion. Thanks.
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Anonymous
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‎12-12-2002 10:05 PM
‎12-12-2002 10:05 PM

Thank you Dean fro the reply. Yes, we have already done that with 'movebak'. However, those are backup files. sometime it is difficult keep track what have been done on certain after the 'save'. And, since it is with a bak file extention, you can not get back those files that have been revised a few sessions back. I wish Acad can have a routine with this 'movebak' to creat bak files with numbers such as bk1, bk2 ..... so on similar to the network, instead of overwrite the same file name. Anyway, I am not a programmer, it seems to a realitively simple program to copy a exact file to local drive with same extension as the network whenever somebody delete a file on the network. Any suggestion ? Ben.
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Anonymous
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‎12-12-2002 10:08 PM
‎12-12-2002 10:08 PM

i remember windows NT with Novell had a "salvage files" feature that would
allow users to salvage deleted and overwritten files... it came in handy on
numerous occasions... but when the "upgrade" to win2000 came around, MS
didnt add this feature into the network.... i wonder why because it was a
great feature!... not a lot of help here, unless you still use that OS.....
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Anonymous
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‎12-12-2002 10:13 PM
‎12-12-2002 10:13 PM

"Salvage" is a good solution as we use it all the time. However if the file
server where your projects are located becomes low on volume space one of the
first things your Network Administrator will probably do is run a "Purge" on
that server. Then any files available to salvage are removed.

weasel wrote:

> i remember windows NT with Novell had a "salvage files" feature that would
> allow users to salvage deleted and overwritten files... it came in handy on
> numerous occasions... but when the "upgrade" to win2000 came around, MS
> didnt add this feature into the network.... i wonder why because it was a
> great feature!... not a lot of help here, unless you still use that OS.....
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Anonymous
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‎12-13-2002 12:08 AM
‎12-13-2002 12:08 AM

HI Ben,

You might want to check out Executive Software's
Undelete utility. I have it installed on our file server and it has saved our
butts a couple of times. It is similar to the Novell salvage command. You can
set it up to use what ever percentage of the drives you decide on. In our office
I have set to not use more than 10% of available drive space. With our current
work load that translates to a few weeks worth of deleted files. After the 10%
mark is reached it will permanently delete files starting with the oldest. I
think it was less than $300.00 when I bought it.

 

Dale



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Every
now and then, myself and others accidently or without thinking, delete some
files on the network. Date and weeks later want to retrieve back for some
reason. I know it is possible to recover from our network backup. The trouble
is, first of all, there are thousands of deleted filesn and you need the IT
person to search the archived tape and fnd the certain file. The proccess is
extremely slow. Since each local station usually have a large harddrive,
wouldn't it be nice to save a copy of files which that particular station
deleted. So, whenever the person of that station need to recover certain file,
it would make the job a lot easier. Is there anything out there to perform
this task ?
Or may be have some other suggestion.
Thanks.
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Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎12-13-2002 12:57 AM
‎12-13-2002 12:57 AM

Dale, thanks you for the reply. I will check it out. Just curious, can it save the deleted files to local drive ? Our network drive is almost at capacity. Therefore, all the deleted files would not stay long before it is written over.
Come to think of it, since most of the people use explorer to manage files. It would be good to have file management program that could copy the deleted file to local drive before get deleted from the network. Ben.
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Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎12-13-2002 01:30 AM
‎12-13-2002 01:30 AM

I just checked out the setup on my file server and
it does not appear that I can save it to a another computer. Still, drives are
pretty cheap these days. Maybe yur IT guys could put in one drive on the
server that would only be used for the undelete utility.

Just a thought...


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Dale,
thanks you for the reply. I will check it out. Just curious, can it save the
deleted files to local drive ? Our network drive is almost at capacity.
Therefore, all the deleted files would not stay long before it is written
over.
Come to think of it, since most of the people use explorer to manage
files. It would be good to have file management program that could copy the
deleted file to local drive before get deleted from the network.
Ben.
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Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎12-13-2002 02:42 AM
‎12-13-2002 02:42 AM

How about Roxio's GoBack?
I wonder if anyone has had any experience with this software running on a
windows 2000 server.



"Dale Echnoz" wrote in message
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I just checked out the setup on my file server and it does not appear that I
can save it to a another computer. Still, drives are pretty cheap these
days. Maybe yur IT guys could put in one drive on the server that would only
be used for the undelete utility.
Just a thought...
"BenC" wrote in message
news:f12cc79.5@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
Dale, thanks you for the reply. I will check it out. Just curious, can it
save the deleted files to local drive ? Our network drive is almost at
capacity. Therefore, all the deleted files would not stay long before it is
written over.
Come to think of it, since most of the people use explorer to manage files.
It would be good to have file management program that could copy the deleted
file to local drive before get deleted from the network. Ben.
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Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎12-13-2002 04:02 AM
‎12-13-2002 04:02 AM

Looks like you need a whole review of your backup system, and new equipment:
saved daily backups would allow you to get back at older files etc. and that
is what you really need. There is no AutoCAD add-on or software solution if
you are not backing up daily and saving those backups. An almost full server
as you are stating means there are no really old files left to salvage at
all.

Time to talk to the boss about parting with cash and reworking your entire
setup.

--
Dean Saadallah
http://www.pendean.com
LT Express Utilities
http://www.pendean.com/ltexpress
Expanded Links Pages
http://www.pendean.com/lt/links.htm
--

"BenC" wrote in message
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> Thank you Dean fro the reply. Yes, we have already done that with
'movebak'. However, those are backup files. sometime it is difficult keep
track what have been done on certain after the 'save'. And, since it is with
a bak file extention, you can not get back those files that have been
revised a few sessions back. I wish Acad can have a routine with this
'movebak' to creat bak files with numbers such as bk1, bk2 ..... so on
similar to the network, instead of overwrite the same file name. Anyway, I
am not a programmer, it seems to a realitively simple program to copy a
exact file to local drive with same extension as the network whenever
somebody delete a file on the network. Any suggestion ? Ben.
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Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎12-13-2002 07:00 AM
‎12-13-2002 07:00 AM

How about a simple custom software solution that
automatically saves your files into a compressed file (ZIPed) file whenever you
save your drawing.  The solution can allow you to specify exactly where on
the network (or local machine) you want the saved files to be.  Then
perhaps, the interface will allow you to delete those files out of the

compressed file when (if ever) when
needed.

 

I am a full time private Autodesk
developer/programmer.

 

Please feel free to contact me via email or phone
if you would like some assistance. 

 

Thanks!

 

Dreamcad

Gene Marchetto

973-728-3928


 

 

 



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now and then, myself and others accidently or without thinking, delete some
files on the network. Date and weeks later want to retrieve back for some
reason. I know it is possible to recover from our network backup. The trouble
is, first of all, there are thousands of deleted filesn and you need the IT
person to search the archived tape and fnd the certain file. The proccess is
extremely slow. Since each local station usually have a large harddrive,
wouldn't it be nice to save a copy of files which that particular station
deleted. So, whenever the person of that station need to recover certain file,
it would make the job a lot easier. Is there anything out there to perform
this task ?
Or may be have some other suggestion.
Thanks.
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Message 12 of 12
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎12-15-2002 02:32 AM
‎12-15-2002 02:32 AM

Ben

A couple of things about Undelete.  In my
previous office, we used it on the file server, and loved it, until we moved the
bulk of the storage to a NAS device, at which point it no longer did much for
us.  While we used it, it was great, I had it set to maintain deleted files
from one large shared drive onto another reasonably large local drive.  Not
only did it give us quick recovery of files deleted inadvertently, it frequently
allowed us to retrieve overwritten files, or previous versions of files. 
Unfortunately, the NAS device we used was actually running a version of
Linux.  I was hoping that Executive Software would create a Linux undelete
agent, that would run on my NAS, and let me save deleted files onto the old file
storage space on the windows box, but that has not yet happened, as far as I
know.


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Dale,
thanks you for the reply. I will check it out. Just curious, can it save the
deleted files to local drive ? Our network drive is almost at capacity.
Therefore, all the deleted files would not stay long before it is written
over.
Come to think of it, since most of the people use explorer to manage
files. It would be good to have file management program that could copy the
deleted file to local drive before get deleted from the network.
Ben.
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