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Question for the 'Why ADT?' folks

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mindybeede
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Question for the 'Why ADT?' folks

One aspect that wasn't mentioned--and why I am DYING to get my boss to implement ADT--is the connectivity between the model and the sections/elevations and the schedules. As it is, I run into so many discrepancies between these entites when worked out in 'vanilla' AutoCAD, and see how agonizing long it takes us to generate (multiply revised) sections and elevations and to fill out measurement data for doors and window in the schedules.
It seems to me that if all ADT was used for was to build walls, windows and doors, their sections and elevations and their schedules that an enormous efficiency and accuracy would be possible.
Am I getting this amiss?
Thanks for your thoughts.
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Message 81 of 88
Anonymous
in reply to: mindybeede

okay pardner...

 

this is 'a startin' to sound like a showdown...

 

what'll it be, pencils or pucks at fifty feet?

 

Marshall Dillon,  that okay by you?

 

W.


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I gotta get me one of them clocks...


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Message 82 of 88
Anonymous
in reply to: mindybeede

<snip>

>what'll it be, pencils or pucks at fifty
feet?

 

more like:

pints and shots (I take it neat)

 

after this discussion, I need a drink.


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okay pardner...

 

this is 'a startin' to sound like a showdown...

 

what'll it be, pencils or pucks at fifty feet?

 

Marshall Dillon,  that okay by you?

 

W.


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I gotta get me one of them
clocks...


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Message 83 of 88
Anonymous
in reply to: mindybeede

 


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It actually takes less time to do it with plain
old vanilla AutoCAD. By the time you set up your templates, and get the
required training you would have done three projects already.

True. And if you only do three projects in
your entire career, the setup time is not cost effective. But starting with
project #4, you start working faster with fewer errors.


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Come on people, let's stop playing with
these toys already
, and let's solve the problems inherent to
ARCHITECTURE. 

I say, make TIME to work on the problems
inherent in Architecture, by making the computer do AS MUCH BRAINLESS WORK AS
POSSIBLE. Coordinating schedules is pretty brainless INHO. As is back checking
sections and elevations.

 

Just my $0.02 😉

 

Gordon
Message 84 of 88
Anonymous
in reply to: mindybeede

The OE's work as advertised, but they aren't useful enough...
We use ADT, and send our engineers plan backgrounds in ADT3 format. They use
LT 2000i with an OE.
That process works OK, except...
The OE gives them no control over Display Configurations.

Without this ability, either:
1. I just don't use them, and create multiple plans for different displays
(plan, reflected, etc)
2. I use them, and have to setup *each* of their viewports that display my
plan for them.

I don't like either alternative...

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"Scott Reinemann (Autodesk)" wrote in message
news:D5B118C7E75E2FA1B5C0A5B7DD854748@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Hi David,
>
> What kind of problems were your consultants having with the OEs?
>
> Also, what are the problems that you are having with AEC Object Explode?
>
> Regards,
> Scott
>
> "David Hogan" wrote in message
> news:0DE506ABCAAB29BE38737B8C56EE61F3@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > The OE is not the panacea you state. I have had numerous problems w
> > consultants having problems with it. Nor does the explode AEC objects
work
> > well.
> > "Bill Glennie [Autodesk]" wrote in message
> > news:B4D4A1E115DA2264A8A04FFF08EAD235@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > Unfortunately, Evan, there's something of a chicken & egg problem
there.
> > We
> > > build on top of AutoCAD. If they have to include our objects in their
> > core
> > > (not to mention Civil, Mechanical, Building Systems), we'd have a
> > constantly
> > > moving target. It would be almost impossible to release ANY products.
> > >
> > > In fact, you can already accomplish this by simply installing all of
the
> > > object enablers - these are free to download and will allow objects
from
> > all
> > > products to open with no Proxy Information dialog appearing.
> > >
> > > I did look at your post on the Wishes newsgroup, and will try to
respond
> > > there more fully later. But I'm still hoping that Scott Coruth will
> > explain
> > > what he meant.
> > >
> > > Bill Glennie
> > > Autodesk Building Industry Division
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Message 85 of 88
Anonymous
in reply to: mindybeede

I was born in 1957. My parents' last name was "Dillon". All their friends
were big fans of Gunsmoke.

It was pre-ordained.

Yes, it's my real name. And strangely enough, you'd be surprised how many
others out there have the same name.

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Matt Dillon
Assistant Moderator - Autodesk Discussion Forums

The D.C. CADD Company, Inc.
http://www.dccadd.com
Rafael Alvarez wrote in message
<767EF2329470E1DA69F2D8E7AC76AD23@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb>...
>On a side note (sorry .............) is Matt your real name? Is it a
>reference to Gunsmoke? (The guy that always kept the piece).
>
Message 86 of 88
Anonymous
in reply to: mindybeede

cool, thanks 🙂
"Matt Dillon" wrote in message
news:2E6571C2F0B338ACDB09DE640F92FB04@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> I was born in 1957. My parents' last name was "Dillon". All their friends
> were big fans of Gunsmoke.
>
> It was pre-ordained.
>
> Yes, it's my real name. And strangely enough, you'd be surprised how many
> others out there have the same name.
>
> --
> ***************************************************************
> Please do not email me privately with technical issues
> ***************************************************************
> Matt Dillon
> Assistant Moderator - Autodesk Discussion Forums
>
> The D.C. CADD Company, Inc.
> http://www.dccadd.com
> Rafael Alvarez wrote in message
> <767EF2329470E1DA69F2D8E7AC76AD23@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb>...
> >On a side note (sorry .............) is Matt your real name? Is it a
> >reference to Gunsmoke? (The guy that always kept the piece).
> >
>
>
>
Message 87 of 88
Anonymous
in reply to: mindybeede

Now that we settled that, how did you come by yours? Eight dots from
somewhere just isn't that cool. Go work on it.

Arthur

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"........" <.............> wrote in message
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> cool, thanks 🙂
Message 87 of 88
Anonymous
in reply to: mindybeede

thanks Matt for the reply.
hey Mr. "it", nice try but nobody believes that your are me. give it up
already, and grow up!
"........" <.............> wrote in message
news:AFA08587B4DF934CBA5744E904094ECE@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> cool, thanks 🙂
> "Matt Dillon" wrote in message
> news:2E6571C2F0B338ACDB09DE640F92FB04@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > I was born in 1957. My parents' last name was "Dillon". All their
friends
> > were big fans of Gunsmoke.
> >
> > It was pre-ordained.
> >
> > Yes, it's my real name. And strangely enough, you'd be surprised how
many
> > others out there have the same name.
> >
> > --
> > ***************************************************************
> > Please do not email me privately with technical issues
> > ***************************************************************
> > Matt Dillon
> > Assistant Moderator - Autodesk Discussion Forums
> >
> > The D.C. CADD Company, Inc.
> > http://www.dccadd.com
> > Rafael Alvarez wrote in message
> > <767EF2329470E1DA69F2D8E7AC76AD23@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb>...
> > >On a side note (sorry .............) is Matt your real name? Is it a
> > >reference to Gunsmoke? (The guy that always kept the piece).
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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