Problem opening drawings with xrefs

[Anonymous]

This is kind of hard to explain, and it just started happening a week or so ago. On certain plan drawings with a baseplan xrefed into model space, when I open the drawing with the default view in paperspace, Autocad loads multiple copies of the xref into paperspace. These copies aren't xrefs, but individual entities. It then asks "Do you really want to do this?" many times. If I ctrl-c enough, it finally exits, but if I try to zoom it goes through this same routine. I have been able to delete these mutiple copies, but the next time the drawing is opened, the same thing happens. If I audit, no errors show, nor if I try and recover the drawing. At first I thought it had something to do with a door schedule that was in the xref because it kept saying something like "Could not automatically add object to schedule". I think this was only showing up because of the mutiple copies. Once I deleted the schedule, I no longer got that error, but it still creates multiple drawings. Also, if I play around in these drawings enough for Autocad to have a fatal error and exit, and then open the drawing back up immediately, the drawing seems fine.

So far this has happened to 2 different drawings, in 2 different projects, with 2 different xrefs. I think it is drawing based since this happens exactly the same on 3 different computers, but I could be wrong. Does anyone have any ideas? These are critical drawings and I can't fix them! Thanks.

[Anonymous]

Did you try to detach and then re-attach your xrefs?
also in Tools, preferences, make sure Enabled with Copy is checked for xrefs.
Other than that, I do'nt know.
cbc

[Anonymous]

I've had the same problem on a couple reflected
ceiling plans. I figured that it has something to do with hatch boundaries,
because in my reflected ceiling plan had tonnes upon tonnes of sand and dot
hatching. I was never able to fix, I just sort of lived with. If anyone knows
how to fix this problem it would be great. Also in my drawings, if i answered
yes to "do you really want to do this?" when it takes the entire XREF drawing,
explodes it and puts it on the current drawing layer. Which is really annoying
to have to delete.

Any feedback is appreciated.

Ryan

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This
is kind of hard to explain, and it just started happening a week or so ago. On
certain plan drawings with a baseplan xrefed into model space, when I open the
drawing with the default view in paperspace, Autocad loads multiple copies of
the xref into paperspace. These copies aren't xrefs, but individual entities.
It then asks "Do you really want to do this?" many times. If I ctrl-c enough,
it finally exits, but if I try to zoom it goes through this same routine. I
have been able to delete these mutiple copies, but the next time the drawing
is opened, the same thing happens. If I audit, no errors show, nor if I try
and recover the drawing. At first I thought it had something to do with a door
schedule that was in the xref because it kept saying something like "Could not
automatically add object to schedule". I think this was only showing up
because of the mutiple copies. Once I deleted the schedule, I no longer got
that error, but it still creates multiple drawings. Also, if I play around in
these drawings enough for Autocad to have a fatal error and exit, and then
open the drawing back up immediately, the drawing seems fine.

So far this has happened to 2 different drawings, in 2 different projects,
with 2 different xrefs. I think it is drawing based since this happens exactly
the same on 3 different computers, but I could be wrong. Does anyone have any
ideas? These are critical drawings and I can't fix them!
Thanks.

[Anonymous]

This is a common problem and has been delt with in this newsgroup many
times.

esentially ADT does not like doing associative hatches whose boundaries
are nested within an xref.

Also, some have seen this problem where an associative hatch has been
done inside a complex wall style or in other ADT objects.

If you can struggle with the dwg long enough you can turn off the associativity
of the offending hatches.

what ever you do, don't say save changes if autocad crashes on you.

the dwg will be corrupt beyond recovery.

 

Ryan wrote:

 I've had the
same problem on a couple reflected ceiling plans. I figured that it has
something to do with hatch boundaries, because in my reflected ceiling
plan had tonnes upon tonnes of sand and dot hatching. I was never able
to fix, I just sort of lived with. If anyone knows how to fix this problem
it would be great. Also in my drawings, if i answered yes to "do you really
want to do this?" when it takes the entire XREF drawing, explodes it and
puts it on the current drawing layer. Which is really annoying to have
to delete.Any feedback is
appreciated.Ryan

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wrote in message news:f14f899.-1@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...This
is kind of hard to explain, and it just started happening a week or so
ago. On certain plan drawings with a baseplan xrefed into model space,
when I open the drawing with the default view in paperspace, Autocad loads
multiple copies of the xref into paperspace. These copies aren't xrefs,
but individual entities. It then asks "Do you really want to do this?"
many times. If I ctrl-c enough, it finally exits, but if I try to zoom
it goes through this same routine. I have been able to delete these mutiple
copies, but the next time the drawing is opened, the same thing happens.
If I audit, no errors show, nor if I try and recover the drawing. At first
I thought it had something to do with a door schedule that was in the xref
because it kept saying something like "Could not automatically add object
to schedule". I think this was only showing up because of the mutiple copies.
Once I deleted the schedule, I no longer got that error, but it still creates
multiple drawings. Also, if I play around in these drawings enough for
Autocad to have a fatal error and exit, and then open the drawing back
up immediately, the drawing seems fine.

So far this has happened to 2 different drawings, in 2 different projects,
with 2 different xrefs. I think it is drawing based since this happens
exactly the same on 3 different computers, but I could be wrong. Does anyone
have any ideas? These are critical drawings and I can't fix them! Thanks.

[Anonymous]

I agree with Mike... and the quickest way to turn off the associativity (hopefully before it crashes on you) is to use QSELECT to select all hatches based on their associatively and then change that property in the modify properies box.

[Anonymous]

Yes. forgot that part.

jfranklin wrote:

> I agree with Mike... and the quickest way to turn off the
> associativity (hopefully before it crashes on you) is to use QSELECT
> to select all hatches based on their associatively and then change
> that property in the modify properies box.

[Anonymous]

Thanks, that seems to have fixed it. Sorry to rehash something that's been talked about alot. I read through most of the messages and there is no search function.

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(snip) I read through most of the messages and there is no search
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