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*Lafrenière, Gary
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AutoCAD/ADT 2004 system requirements

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03-22-2003 12:56 AM
We are a small design office using AutoCad 2000. We currently have three
licenses (2 ADT2 + 1 ADT2i). Although they are ADT licenses, we are only
using them as Vanilla CAD. They are currently installed on the following
Dell computers: P3 450MHz (256MB RAM), P3 800MHz (256MB RAM), and P3 866MHz
(384 MB RAM). The last one is mine. We also just purchased a new Dell P4
2.4Ghz with 512MB RAM. Unfortunately, our AutoCAD 2000 is not compatible
with Windows XP Pro which was installed in the new PC.

I just returned from an AutoCAD/ADT 2004 presentation. I was very impressed
with the features of 2004 and would love to upgrade. Upon my return to the
office, I looked over the brochures. I noticed that the Recommended System
Requirements may pose a problem for us. The "recommended" system for
AutoCAD 2004 is a P3 800MHz (128MB RAM). For ADT 2004 the "recommended"
system is MUCH higher, a P4 1.4GHz (512MB RAM).

Our current computers meet the "recommended" system for AutoCAD 2004,
however, they are inadequate for ADT 2004. In order for us the upgrade to
ADT 2004 AND use it, we will need to purchase two new computers. This will
be difficult since we just purchased a new PC and Plotter as well as a new
large-format xerox copier.

I'm trying to convince my boss (owner of firm, who doesn't use computers),
that we need to upgrade our computers in order to upgrade our AutoCAD
software. I don't see this happening soon. He wants the new software
installed on our current computers. I don't want to "downgrade" our
licenses to AutoCAD 2004, because I really want to start using ADT in the
near future.

So here are my questions (to Autodesk):
1. Are the "recommended" requirements also considered "minimum
requirements" and would we be able to install ADT 2004 on our current
computers?
2. And if I did NOT use any of the ADT features (only vanilla AutoCAD)
would I still be able to use it on these computers?

TIA,

Gary Lafrenière
CAD Manager
Plan B Retail Design
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Message 2 of 13 (378 Views)

Re: AutoCAD/ADT 2004 system requirements

03-22-2003 05:56 AM in reply to: *Lafrenière, Gary
Gary: perhaps I help a bit. Autodesk has taken the commendable step of giving more realistic requirements for real use, now. Some bosses have looked at the old requirements, then kept their crews on boxes which are slow, waste man-hours. It also has to do with the size and complexity of projects: if you are doing small mall shops,you dont need what guys doing the whole mall need. ADT2004 will ship on TWO cds, as it is huge, it is not going to go on your older boxes well, but it might run, depending on hd space and video card. If you make the change to 3D (you will never go back) make it in the best way possible! BOB
*[Autodesk], Julian Gonzalez
Message 3 of 13 (378 Views)

Re: AutoCAD/ADT 2004 system requirements

03-22-2003 07:31 AM in reply to: *Lafrenière, Gary
Hi Gary,

You certainly can run ADT 2004 on a machine that meets the AutoCAD 2004
system requirements. However, you will probably find that many features will
suffer from slow performance. For example, use of materials with surface
hatch turned on, viewing texture materials in shaded views, and certainly
using VIZ Render to generate visualizations. There may also be other areas
that perform below expectations, but the ones I listed are probably the most
impacted.

However, I would certainly recommend upgrading your RAM to a minimum of
512MB...but the more the better!

Cheers,

Julian

"Gary Lafrenière" wrote in message
news:78335ACD5B022CCE0F0FDE25BED9A479@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> We are a small design office using AutoCad 2000. We currently have three
> licenses (2 ADT2 + 1 ADT2i). Although they are ADT licenses, we are only
> using them as Vanilla CAD. They are currently installed on the following
> Dell computers: P3 450MHz (256MB RAM), P3 800MHz (256MB RAM), and P3
866MHz
> (384 MB RAM). The last one is mine. We also just purchased a new Dell P4
> 2.4Ghz with 512MB RAM. Unfortunately, our AutoCAD 2000 is not compatible
> with Windows XP Pro which was installed in the new PC.
>
> I just returned from an AutoCAD/ADT 2004 presentation. I was very
impressed
> with the features of 2004 and would love to upgrade. Upon my return to
the
> office, I looked over the brochures. I noticed that the Recommended
System
> Requirements may pose a problem for us. The "recommended" system for
> AutoCAD 2004 is a P3 800MHz (128MB RAM). For ADT 2004 the "recommended"
> system is MUCH higher, a P4 1.4GHz (512MB RAM).
>
> Our current computers meet the "recommended" system for AutoCAD 2004,
> however, they are inadequate for ADT 2004. In order for us the upgrade to
> ADT 2004 AND use it, we will need to purchase two new computers. This
will
> be difficult since we just purchased a new PC and Plotter as well as a new
> large-format xerox copier.
>
> I'm trying to convince my boss (owner of firm, who doesn't use computers),
> that we need to upgrade our computers in order to upgrade our AutoCAD
> software. I don't see this happening soon. He wants the new software
> installed on our current computers. I don't want to "downgrade" our
> licenses to AutoCAD 2004, because I really want to start using ADT in the
> near future.
>
> So here are my questions (to Autodesk):
> 1. Are the "recommended" requirements also considered "minimum
> requirements" and would we be able to install ADT 2004 on our current
> computers?
> 2. And if I did NOT use any of the ADT features (only vanilla AutoCAD)
> would I still be able to use it on these computers?
>
> TIA,
>
> Gary Lafrenière
> CAD Manager
> Plan B Retail Design
> Remove NO SPAM from address before replying
> --
>
>
*Aubin, Paul F.
Message 4 of 13 (379 Views)

Re:

03-22-2003 10:39 PM in reply to: *Lafrenière, Gary
When it comes to RAM, more is ALWAYS better... ;-)
*Lafrenière, Gary
Message 5 of 13 (379 Views)

Re:

03-23-2003 10:24 AM in reply to: *Lafrenière, Gary
Hi Julian,

Thanks for the quick reply. I certainly realize that the 3D stuff and the
rendering needs would be a problem. At the present time we do not utilize
those features, so I will try to get by with what we now have and add more
RAM, but I will still be pushing for new computers.

Thanks,

Gary Lafrenière
CAD Manager
Plan B Retail Design
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"Julian Gonzalez [Autodesk]" wrote in message
news:A080BCD9CE74F27F271E14C6829ECB91@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Hi Gary,
>
> You certainly can run ADT 2004 on a machine that meets the AutoCAD 2004
> system requirements. However, you will probably find that many features
will
> suffer from slow performance. For example, use of materials with surface
> hatch turned on, viewing texture materials in shaded views, and certainly
> using VIZ Render to generate visualizations. There may also be other
areas
> that perform below expectations, but the ones I listed are probably the
most
> impacted.
>
> However, I would certainly recommend upgrading your RAM to a minimum of
> 512MB...but the more the better!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Julian
*Peterson, Jason
Message 6 of 13 (379 Views)

Re:

03-23-2003 11:09 PM in reply to: *Lafrenière, Gary
Julian,

I'm in a similar situation, although not as bad as Gary. Assuming someone
is just starting to use ADT as is therefore likely using the simpler
functions (walls, doors, windows) for mainly 2D drafting, and not the more
advanced functions (rendering, etc.), are the requirements for ADT on par
with those for AutoCAD 2004?

Gary, if money is tight, you may want to look at a processor upgrade. Check
out www.powerleap.com. You might be able to go to a 1.4 GHz, although it is
a Celeron processor. I've had pretty good luck with there products.
However, as Paul refered to, RAM is just as, if not more, critical.

Jason Peterson
CAD/IT Manager
Scholer Corporation

"Julian Gonzalez [Autodesk]" wrote in message
news:A080BCD9CE74F27F271E14C6829ECB91@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
Hi Gary,

You certainly can run ADT 2004 on a machine that meets the AutoCAD 2004
system requirements. However, you will probably find that many features will
suffer from slow performance. For example, use of materials with surface
hatch turned on, viewing texture materials in shaded views, and certainly
using VIZ Render to generate visualizations. There may also be other areas
that perform below expectations, but the ones I listed are probably the most
impacted.

However, I would certainly recommend upgrading your RAM to a minimum of
512MB...but the more the better!

Cheers,

Julian

"Gary Lafrenière" wrote in message
news:78335ACD5B022CCE0F0FDE25BED9A479@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> We are a small design office using AutoCad 2000. We currently have three
> licenses (2 ADT2 + 1 ADT2i). Although they are ADT licenses, we are only
> using them as Vanilla CAD. They are currently installed on the following
> Dell computers: P3 450MHz (256MB RAM), P3 800MHz (256MB RAM), and P3
866MHz
> (384 MB RAM). The last one is mine. We also just purchased a new Dell P4
> 2.4Ghz with 512MB RAM. Unfortunately, our AutoCAD 2000 is not compatible
> with Windows XP Pro which was installed in the new PC.
>
> I just returned from an AutoCAD/ADT 2004 presentation. I was very
impressed
> with the features of 2004 and would love to upgrade. Upon my return to
the
> office, I looked over the brochures. I noticed that the Recommended
System
> Requirements may pose a problem for us. The "recommended" system for
> AutoCAD 2004 is a P3 800MHz (128MB RAM). For ADT 2004 the "recommended"
> system is MUCH higher, a P4 1.4GHz (512MB RAM).
>
> Our current computers meet the "recommended" system for AutoCAD 2004,
> however, they are inadequate for ADT 2004. In order for us the upgrade to
> ADT 2004 AND use it, we will need to purchase two new computers. This
will
> be difficult since we just purchased a new PC and Plotter as well as a new
> large-format xerox copier.
>
> I'm trying to convince my boss (owner of firm, who doesn't use computers),
> that we need to upgrade our computers in order to upgrade our AutoCAD
> software. I don't see this happening soon. He wants the new software
> installed on our current computers. I don't want to "downgrade" our
> licenses to AutoCAD 2004, because I really want to start using ADT in the
> near future.
>
> So here are my questions (to Autodesk):
> 1. Are the "recommended" requirements also considered "minimum
> requirements" and would we be able to install ADT 2004 on our current
> computers?
> 2. And if I did NOT use any of the ADT features (only vanilla AutoCAD)
> would I still be able to use it on these computers?
>
> TIA,
>
> Gary Lafrenière
> CAD Manager
> Plan B Retail Design
> Remove NO SPAM from address before replying
> --
>
>
*[Autodesk], Julian Gonzalez
Message 7 of 13 (379 Views)

Re:

03-24-2003 12:44 AM in reply to: *Lafrenière, Gary
Hi Jason,

Using ADT 2004 strictly for productivity enhancements to your 2D process can
certanly be accomplished with the AutoCAD minimum requriements...but...as
Paul stated...."When it comes to RAM, more is ALWAYS better".

Cheers,

Julian

"Jason Peterson" wrote in message
news:C7774023F4D78C32726D6842C4DFA5EC@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Julian,
>
> I'm in a similar situation, although not as bad as Gary. Assuming someone
> is just starting to use ADT as is therefore likely using the simpler
> functions (walls, doors, windows) for mainly 2D drafting, and not the more
> advanced functions (rendering, etc.), are the requirements for ADT on par
> with those for AutoCAD 2004?
>
> Gary, if money is tight, you may want to look at a processor upgrade.
Check
> out www.powerleap.com. You might be able to go to a 1.4 GHz, although it
is
> a Celeron processor. I've had pretty good luck with there products.
> However, as Paul refered to, RAM is just as, if not more, critical.
>
> Jason Peterson
> CAD/IT Manager
> Scholer Corporation
>
> "Julian Gonzalez [Autodesk]" wrote in
message
> news:A080BCD9CE74F27F271E14C6829ECB91@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Hi Gary,
>
> You certainly can run ADT 2004 on a machine that meets the AutoCAD 2004
> system requirements. However, you will probably find that many features
will
> suffer from slow performance. For example, use of materials with surface
> hatch turned on, viewing texture materials in shaded views, and certainly
> using VIZ Render to generate visualizations. There may also be other
areas
> that perform below expectations, but the ones I listed are probably the
most
> impacted.
>
> However, I would certainly recommend upgrading your RAM to a minimum of
> 512MB...but the more the better!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Julian
>
> "Gary Lafrenière" wrote in message
> news:78335ACD5B022CCE0F0FDE25BED9A479@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > We are a small design office using AutoCad 2000. We currently have
three
> > licenses (2 ADT2 + 1 ADT2i). Although they are ADT licenses, we are
only
> > using them as Vanilla CAD. They are currently installed on the
following
> > Dell computers: P3 450MHz (256MB RAM), P3 800MHz (256MB RAM), and P3
> 866MHz
> > (384 MB RAM). The last one is mine. We also just purchased a new Dell
P4
> > 2.4Ghz with 512MB RAM. Unfortunately, our AutoCAD 2000 is not
compatible
> > with Windows XP Pro which was installed in the new PC.
> >
> > I just returned from an AutoCAD/ADT 2004 presentation. I was very
> impressed
> > with the features of 2004 and would love to upgrade. Upon my return to
> the
> > office, I looked over the brochures. I noticed that the Recommended
> System
> > Requirements may pose a problem for us. The "recommended" system for
> > AutoCAD 2004 is a P3 800MHz (128MB RAM). For ADT 2004 the "recommended"
> > system is MUCH higher, a P4 1.4GHz (512MB RAM).
> >
> > Our current computers meet the "recommended" system for AutoCAD 2004,
> > however, they are inadequate for ADT 2004. In order for us the upgrade
to
> > ADT 2004 AND use it, we will need to purchase two new computers. This
> will
> > be difficult since we just purchased a new PC and Plotter as well as a
new
> > large-format xerox copier.
> >
> > I'm trying to convince my boss (owner of firm, who doesn't use
computers),
> > that we need to upgrade our computers in order to upgrade our AutoCAD
> > software. I don't see this happening soon. He wants the new software
> > installed on our current computers. I don't want to "downgrade" our
> > licenses to AutoCAD 2004, because I really want to start using ADT in
the
> > near future.
> >
> > So here are my questions (to Autodesk):
> > 1. Are the "recommended" requirements also considered "minimum
> > requirements" and would we be able to install ADT 2004 on our current
> > computers?
> > 2. And if I did NOT use any of the ADT features (only vanilla AutoCAD)
> > would I still be able to use it on these computers?
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> > Gary Lafrenière
> > CAD Manager
> > Plan B Retail Design
> > Remove NO SPAM from address before replying
> > --
> >
> >
>
>
>
*Peterson, Jason
Message 8 of 13 (379 Views)

Re:

03-24-2003 03:06 AM in reply to: *Lafrenière, Gary
Fortunately, a RAM upgrade is generally easy and releatively cheap. Thanks
for the info.

Jason

"Julian Gonzalez [Autodesk]" wrote in message
news:C5CC77D0BE9B3E6808627E1368AB41B3@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
Hi Jason,

Using ADT 2004 strictly for productivity enhancements to your 2D process can
certanly be accomplished with the AutoCAD minimum requriements...but...as
Paul stated...."When it comes to RAM, more is ALWAYS better".

Cheers,

Julian

"Jason Peterson" wrote in message
news:C7774023F4D78C32726D6842C4DFA5EC@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Julian,
>
> I'm in a similar situation, although not as bad as Gary. Assuming someone
> is just starting to use ADT as is therefore likely using the simpler
> functions (walls, doors, windows) for mainly 2D drafting, and not the more
> advanced functions (rendering, etc.), are the requirements for ADT on par
> with those for AutoCAD 2004?
>
> Gary, if money is tight, you may want to look at a processor upgrade.
Check
> out www.powerleap.com. You might be able to go to a 1.4 GHz, although it
is
> a Celeron processor. I've had pretty good luck with there products.
> However, as Paul refered to, RAM is just as, if not more, critical.
>
> Jason Peterson
> CAD/IT Manager
> Scholer Corporation
>
> "Julian Gonzalez [Autodesk]" wrote in
message
> news:A080BCD9CE74F27F271E14C6829ECB91@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Hi Gary,
>
> You certainly can run ADT 2004 on a machine that meets the AutoCAD 2004
> system requirements. However, you will probably find that many features
will
> suffer from slow performance. For example, use of materials with surface
> hatch turned on, viewing texture materials in shaded views, and certainly
> using VIZ Render to generate visualizations. There may also be other
areas
> that perform below expectations, but the ones I listed are probably the
most
> impacted.
>
> However, I would certainly recommend upgrading your RAM to a minimum of
> 512MB...but the more the better!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Julian
>
> "Gary Lafrenière" wrote in message
> news:78335ACD5B022CCE0F0FDE25BED9A479@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > We are a small design office using AutoCad 2000. We currently have
three
> > licenses (2 ADT2 + 1 ADT2i). Although they are ADT licenses, we are
only
> > using them as Vanilla CAD. They are currently installed on the
following
> > Dell computers: P3 450MHz (256MB RAM), P3 800MHz (256MB RAM), and P3
> 866MHz
> > (384 MB RAM). The last one is mine. We also just purchased a new Dell
P4
> > 2.4Ghz with 512MB RAM. Unfortunately, our AutoCAD 2000 is not
compatible
> > with Windows XP Pro which was installed in the new PC.
> >
> > I just returned from an AutoCAD/ADT 2004 presentation. I was very
> impressed
> > with the features of 2004 and would love to upgrade. Upon my return to
> the
> > office, I looked over the brochures. I noticed that the Recommended
> System
> > Requirements may pose a problem for us. The "recommended" system for
> > AutoCAD 2004 is a P3 800MHz (128MB RAM). For ADT 2004 the "recommended"
> > system is MUCH higher, a P4 1.4GHz (512MB RAM).
> >
> > Our current computers meet the "recommended" system for AutoCAD 2004,
> > however, they are inadequate for ADT 2004. In order for us the upgrade
to
> > ADT 2004 AND use it, we will need to purchase two new computers. This
> will
> > be difficult since we just purchased a new PC and Plotter as well as a
new
> > large-format xerox copier.
> >
> > I'm trying to convince my boss (owner of firm, who doesn't use
computers),
> > that we need to upgrade our computers in order to upgrade our AutoCAD
> > software. I don't see this happening soon. He wants the new software
> > installed on our current computers. I don't want to "downgrade" our
> > licenses to AutoCAD 2004, because I really want to start using ADT in
the
> > near future.
> >
> > So here are my questions (to Autodesk):
> > 1. Are the "recommended" requirements also considered "minimum
> > requirements" and would we be able to install ADT 2004 on our current
> > computers?
> > 2. And if I did NOT use any of the ADT features (only vanilla AutoCAD)
> > would I still be able to use it on these computers?
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> > Gary Lafrenière
> > CAD Manager
> > Plan B Retail Design
> > Remove NO SPAM from address before replying
> > --
> >
> >
>
>
>
*Lafrenière, Gary
Message 9 of 13 (379 Views)

Re:

03-25-2003 04:24 AM in reply to: *Lafrenière, Gary
Jason,

I will check out PowerLeap.com. It seems like an option to consider.

Thanks,

Gary Lafrenière
CAD Manager
Plan B Retail Design
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"Jason Peterson" wrote in message
news:C7774023F4D78C32726D6842C4DFA5EC@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
>.........
> Gary, if money is tight, you may want to look at a processor upgrade.
Check
> out www.powerleap.com. You might be able to go to a 1.4 GHz, although it
is
> a Celeron processor. I've had pretty good luck with there products.
> However, as Paul refered to, RAM is just as, if not more, critical.
>
> Jason Peterson
> CAD/IT Manager
> Scholer Corporation
*Lafrenière, Gary
Message 10 of 13 (379 Views)

Re:

03-25-2003 04:30 AM in reply to: *Lafrenière, Gary
Julian,

What about Jason's suggestion for upgrading the processor to a 1.4GHz
Celeron and bumping up the RAM to 512MB? Would that be a better set-up for
using AutoCAD 2004 than an 800 MHz Pentium 3? And what about for ADT 2004?
I would only use ADT for walls, doors, windows, etc. I would not use the
advanced functions like rendering, etc.

Thanks,

Gary Lafrenière
CAD Manager
Plan B Retail Design
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