Announcements
IMPORTANT. Forum in Read Only mode. You can no longer submit new questions or replies. Please read this message for details
Autodesk Architectural Desktop 2007 & Prior
Welcome to Autodesk’s Autodesk Architectural Desktop 2007 & Prior Forums. Share your knowledge, ask questions, and explore popular Autodesk Architectural Desktop 2007 & Prior topics.
cancel
Showing results for 
Show  only  | Search instead for 
Did you mean: 

AIA Layer Standard dwg

14 REPLIES 14
Reply
Message 1 of 15
ijnicholas
13686 Views, 14 Replies

AIA Layer Standard dwg

Layer standard dwg that comes with ADT has only the layer key styles built into it. I am looking for a AIA Layer Standard.dws that has all the layers with colors, ltype, etc assigned per AIA Layer keys. Does anything like this come with ADT? Does anyone has this DWG or DWS file to share?
I am thinking of using this DWS file as a standard file to chk standards. Please reply. Thanks in advance.
Nicholas.
nicholas iyadurai
www.nichitecture.com
14 REPLIES 14
Message 2 of 15
Anonymous
in reply to: ijnicholas

Try the attached lisp routine, written by David Koch. It will add ALL the layers from your Layer Key Style to your current drawing. You can then save that as a dws file. -- Regards, --------------- Reid M. Addis Registered Architect Architectural Applications Specialist Granary Associates 411 North 20th Street Philadelphia, PA 19130 Ph. 215-665-7056 email: addis@granaryassoc.com
Message 3 of 15
ijnicholas
in reply to: ijnicholas

Thanks so much...This works as a charm..
nicholas iyadurai
www.nichitecture.com
Message 4 of 15
centinel
in reply to: ijnicholas

I have that lisp from the discussion group and is wonderful, but what happened whit the layer that cant be located in the AIA file. layers ADT bring when you insert a special object, create a elevation & section.
Message 5 of 15
Anonymous
in reply to: ijnicholas

centinel, you are right that the key style DOES NOT contain all the layers that ADT creates automatically out of the box. For example, A-Wall-Comp and A-Wall-Patt are automatically created when you draw certain wall styles, but are not listed in the layer key style. As a workaround I just created a drawing with hopefully most of the layers by going through the tools and inserting instances of a lot of styles and Design Center content. This process added maybe 30 layers but I bet I missed some.

It would be nice to have a comprehensive list because it is essential for creating a good office standard plot style table (.ctb)
Message 6 of 15
Anonymous
in reply to: ijnicholas

I can not say I have checked every single wall style that ships with ADT, but A-Wall-Patt and A-Wall-Comp sound like remnants from an ADT3.3 or earlier wall style. With the introduction of Materials in ADT2004 and a major overhaul of the way wall styles are set up, the out-of-the-box content moved away from layer-specific components, excepting the screened Display Representations [and even there, it is all on one layer, not separate layers for each component].

That said, yes, there can be layers defined in the Display Representations that do not have layer keys in the Layer Key Style.

--

David Koch
Autodesk Discussion Group Facilitator
Message 7 of 15
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Can you send me this lisp?  I dont see the attachement on the site anymore.

Message 8 of 15
David_W_Koch
in reply to: Anonymous

Quite a few years ago, during an overhaul of the Discussion Groups, previous attachments were lost.  I am not exactly sure what Mr. Addis posted, but chances are it was an earlier version of LKL.lsp, which would probably not run on current versions of ACA.  Reading your post prompted me to update the routine for ACA 2015.  See the attached file.


David Koch
AutoCAD Architecture and Revit User
Blog | LinkedIn
EESignature

Message 9 of 15
Anonymous
in reply to: David_W_Koch

Newbie trying to get up to speed on this. Can you walk me thru it again. How does one do this?
".....I am looking for a AIA Layer Standard.dws that has all the layers with colors, ltype, etc assigned per AIA Layer keys. Does anything like this come with ADT? Does anyone have this DWG or DWS file to share?...."
Thanks
Message 10 of 15
David_W_Koch
in reply to: Anonymous

I assume that you know how to look for a file.  The program does not ship with a Drawing Standards file with all of the layers that ACA might create.  The LKL AutoLISP routine that was posted will generate all of the layers defined in the current Layer Key Style.  As noted, this may not represent all of the layers that may be created by ACA and the content files that ship with it, because there could be embedded layers in some object styles or Display Representations that are not Layer Keyed.  But it would get you a good deal of the way there.  Once you have a drawing with all of the layers, you can save it as a Drawing Standards file (DWS extension).


David Koch
AutoCAD Architecture and Revit User
Blog | LinkedIn
EESignature

Message 11 of 15
Anonymous
in reply to: David_W_Koch

You're getting ahead of me. Ok. So I went to "manage" and "load application" and loaded the AUTOLisp program by dragging and dropping in the start up suite. If that's correct then what?

Message 12 of 15
David_W_Koch
in reply to: Anonymous

After loading the LKL.lsp file, at the Command prompt, type LKL and press ENTER.

The program should do its thing and then the following alert message should appear:

2015-07-14_LKL_AutoCADMessage.png

Select OK to dismiss the message and you are done.  Note that the layer key generate function that LKL uses will not overwrite any layers that already exist in the file, so if you already have a layer whose name matches one in the Layer Key Style, the local definition will remain, unchanged, even if the local layer's properties (color, linetype, etc.) are different from that specified in the Layer Key Style.

 

Once you have all the layers you want in the file, with the desired properties set, you can save the file as a Standards File.  On the Application Menu (large red origami "A" in the upper left corner, select the far right part of the Save As split button (the part with the arrow icon) and then select the Drawing Standards tool from the cascading menu.  Select a location for the file where those who need to access it can do so and give the file a meaningful name.  It will be saved with a DWS extension.

2015-07-14_SaveAsStandardsFile-DWS.png


David Koch
AutoCAD Architecture and Revit User
Blog | LinkedIn
EESignature

Message 13 of 15
Anonymous
in reply to: David_W_Koch

I am trying to get this to work but am unable to open it properly. is there a special way one needs to open the File LKL.LSP in order to bring the layers in cause I've tried four times and it doesn't do anything at all.

Message 14 of 15
David_W_Koch
in reply to: Anonymous


@Anonymous wrote:

I am trying to get this to work but am unable to open it properly. is there a special way one needs to open the File LKL.LSP in order to bring the layers in cause I've tried four times and it doesn't do anything at all.


What version of ACA are you using?  The previously posted version will only run on ADT 3.3 through ACA 2015.  I have updated the file to work on ACA 2016 and 2017 as well, and have attached a ZIP file containing that version (v1.4).

 

As for getting it to run, first you have to unzip the file and extract the LKL.lsp file within.  That file then needs to be loaded into AutoCAD Architecture.  There are a number of ways to do so; the easiest is to start AutoCAD Architecture, open the file in which you wish to run LKL, making it the currently active drawing, open an instance of Windows Explorer, navigate to the location where you have extracted LKL.lsp and then left-click-hold-and-drag the LKL.lsp file, moving the cursor from Windows Explorer to a position over the drawing canvas of the active drawing and releasing the left mouse button.

 

Once loaded, type LKL at the command prompt and then press the ENTER key, and the command should run.  You should see the alert dialog shown in Post #12 above, indicating that the command is complete.  As noted previously, and in that alert dialog, any previously existing layers that have the same name as a layer defined in the current Layer Key Style will remain as it was previously defined, even if it has different layer properties (color, linetype, etc.) from those defined in the Layer Key Style.  This is consistent with the way Layer Keys work in AutoCAD Architecture.


David Koch
AutoCAD Architecture and Revit User
Blog | LinkedIn
EESignature

Message 15 of 15
David_W_Koch
in reply to: David_W_Koch

Here is a brief Screencast showing the LKL.lsp file in action, from loading via drag-n-drop to use of the LKL command.  Screencast switches from active Window to active Window sort of abruptly, so you do not get to see the full effect of the drag-n-drop.  Once the cursor leaves the Windows Explorer Window, it is positions over the drawing canvas (drawing area) in the AutoCAD Window, where the button is release, loading the file.


David Koch
AutoCAD Architecture and Revit User
Blog | LinkedIn
EESignature

Can't find what you're looking for? Ask the community or share your knowledge.

Post to forums  

Autodesk Design & Make Report