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Plant 3D Specs info plus conversion from CadWorx

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06-25-2012 03:36 PM

Hello,

 

I am using Plant 3D 2012. I am converting my CadWorx specs over to Plant 3D and have a few questions.

 

  1. After the spec is created the .pspx and .pspc files contain all the dimensional and description information is this correct. I could actually erase the catalogue and the spec would still work?
  2. Is there a more detailed explanation of what the .pspx and .pspc files contain?
  3. When I convert my CadWorx specs it does not create a catalog of the CadWorx library files, is this correct? We need these to be able to add more sizes later.
  4. Is there a way to convert the CadWorx library files across to a Plant 3D catalogue

1.  Yes you could erase the catalog and the specs would still work for drawing items.

2.  How detailed do you want to get.  We do have some information in this article:

http://www.pdoteam.com/2012/02/setting-up-network-catalogs-for-autocad-plant-3d/

3. You are correct, the conversion process only creates specs.  We have been playing with the catalog builder, and it should be able to create a catalog from specs, but for a few bugs.  It looks like the intention is there to be able to do that.  It's new in 2013, so it doesn't know that we actually want to convert stuff like actuators (throws up errors when it comes across them), but it looks like that will be possible soon.

4. There is no conversion from the CADWorx libraries to a Plant 3D catalog currently.  As I said above, it looks like the workflow will be to convert the specs, export them to the catalog builder format, and then build a catalog from that using the catalog builder.

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dave.wolfe
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Re: Plant 3D Specs info plus conversion from CadWorx

06-25-2012 06:00 PM in reply to: PatrickByrne

1.  Yes you could erase the catalog and the specs would still work for drawing items.

2.  How detailed do you want to get.  We do have some information in this article:

http://www.pdoteam.com/2012/02/setting-up-network-catalogs-for-autocad-plant-3d/

3. You are correct, the conversion process only creates specs.  We have been playing with the catalog builder, and it should be able to create a catalog from specs, but for a few bugs.  It looks like the intention is there to be able to do that.  It's new in 2013, so it doesn't know that we actually want to convert stuff like actuators (throws up errors when it comes across them), but it looks like that will be possible soon.

4. There is no conversion from the CADWorx libraries to a Plant 3D catalog currently.  As I said above, it looks like the workflow will be to convert the specs, export them to the catalog builder format, and then build a catalog from that using the catalog builder.

Dave Wolfe
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Re: Plant 3D Specs info plus conversion from CadWorx

06-25-2012 06:11 PM in reply to: dave.wolfe

Thanks

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06-26-2012 03:42 AM in reply to: PatrickByrne

Actually it is a pain, our spec did not convert across properly, missed a lot of sizes. Looks like we are going to have to recreate the catalog manually and then create a new spec.

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Re: Plant 3D Specs info plus conversion from CadWorx

06-26-2012 05:42 AM in reply to: PatrickByrne

Did you add the appropriate mappings?  The default convert settings include about 1 conversion mapping per component.  Because most users have several of each component types, most people have to add copies of the mapping of commands.  For example, most users will have several elbows in their specs.  

 

CADWorx Mapping Settings

6-26-2012 8-28-02 AM.png

 

Mapping for component 73:

6-26-2012 8-28-45 AM.png

 

CADWorx's Prgm.tlb (System folder) indicating what 73 is:

6-26-2012 8-37-23 AM.png

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Re: Plant 3D Specs info plus conversion from CadWorx

06-26-2012 06:46 AM in reply to: PatrickByrne

Missed that part of the instructions.

 

That is why not all the flanges came in as we have individual descriptions for each flange. Therefore if I copy more flanges in the mapping file I should get a better result. Would I have to make a copy in the Geometry Mapping as well as the Class mapping window?

 

In regards to recreating the catalogs I was thinking of creating a CSV file with the information from the CadWorx library files, do you think this could be an option. We don’t have the Export to Catalog Builder command in Plant 3D 2012 or if the Spec Editor from Plant 3D 2013 was used to convert the spec file to a catalog could this catalog then be converted back to use in Plant 3D 2012.

 

Thanks again for the excellent information.

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Re: Plant 3D Specs info plus conversion from CadWorx

06-26-2012 07:06 AM in reply to: PatrickByrne

Yes, you'll have to duplicate the geometry mappings as well.

 

You could create the csv for library files, but that would be a ton of work.  In general catalogs and specs are not backwards compatible.  Are  you not planning on moving to 2013?

Dave Wolfe
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06-26-2012 02:30 PM in reply to: PatrickByrne

Due to issues with other software and to keep the office on the same drawing version we won't be moving to 2013 yet.

 

At this stage there Plant 3D 2013 does not have that many improvements to warrant the move.

 

Thanks again

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Re: Plant 3D Specs info plus conversion from CadWorx

06-29-2012 09:00 AM in reply to: PatrickByrne

Hello,

 

I am not sure if you have a CADWorx spec file that contains all the parts in a Catalog. If you do, then it might be possible to directly create a Plant 3D Catalog from that Spec file.

 

Please let me know if you want to know how to do this.

 

Thanks,
Raj Inugala.

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Re: Plant 3D Specs info plus conversion from CadWorx

06-29-2012 09:02 AM in reply to: raj.inugala

No, no one I've ever heard of has put all of the parts from the CADWorx library into a spec.

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