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Plant 3D and Showcase

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Message 1 of 21
thebearjed
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Plant 3D and Showcase

is it possible to bring a Plant 3D model into Showcase to "pretty" it up to make a presentation ot clients?

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Message 2 of 21
DarrenP
in reply to: thebearjed

yes

you should be able to bring the .dwg file straight into showcase

its not a perfect conversion if i remember correctly it brings the model in black  but its a good starting point

DarrenP
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thebearjed
in reply to: DarrenP

yeah, i tried that. doesn't work.

Message 4 of 21
ybogdanov
in reply to: thebearjed

It's very dificult insert big plant models in showcase...In this moment showcase is not usefull for plant design, in my opinion.

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Yury Bogdanov
ASIDEK(Grupo CT) - Partner Directo de Autodesk
Barcelona (Spain)
Message 5 of 21
jason.drew
in reply to: ybogdanov

3D Studio Max Design is designed to handle large models such as one exported from Plant 3D. Showcase seems to work fine for individual models or small skid based designs, but for large projects 3D Studio is the way to go.

 

Thank you,



Jason Drew
Designated Support Specialist
Message 6 of 21
DarrenP
in reply to: jason.drew

the bad thing is the learning curve

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Message 7 of 21
Lucas75
in reply to: thebearjed

It seems only AutoCad objects are imported, not the plant3d objects.

 

 

Message 8 of 21
luis_andueza
in reply to: Lucas75

What I found for importing from Plant 3D into Showcase is exploding all the entities, and works a little more better.

Luis José Andueza Castro
Ing. Mecánico - Consultor CAD/CAM/CAE/Data Management
www.dimcad3d.com | LinkedIn |

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Message 9 of 21
RSFAdsk
in reply to: thebearjed

Hello,

 

Showcase does not currently support AP3D Object enablers.  You can import an AP3D model into Showcase but it requires exporttoautocad which converts plant objects into native AutoCAD entities. 

 

It worked with decent performance when I tried it (attached) on the relatively small 2012 sample project.



Richard Frank
Autodesk Knowledge Network
Autodesk, Inc.
Message 10 of 21
dennis
in reply to: RSFAdsk

Seems nothing has changed in 2013, same issue where Plant3D objects don't make it into Showcase.  I loaded the sample project, Master.dwg, then tried the Xref 2-P-001 by itself, no pipes nor racks at all either way.  So, I tried the workflow to 3DS which did better, but lost all the pipe fittings.

Kinda messes up the whole integrated workflow thingy.

Message 11 of 21
jason.drew
in reply to: dennis

Did you use 'Export to AutoCAD' from Plant 3D? That will send it out as regular AutoCAD 3D solids which 3DS Max should be able to import with no problems.

 

If you looking for more specific information about using Plant 3D models in 3DS Max, this forum has a lot of useful information:

 

http://www.davetyner.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?111-Autodesk-3DS-Max

 

Thank you,



Jason Drew
Designated Support Specialist
Message 12 of 21
dennis
in reply to: jason.drew

Thanks Jason, I knew about the Export to AutoCAD option, I was just in hopes that the 2013 would have overcome that particular workaround.  It would be much cleaner of a workflow to not have to do that.

Message 13 of 21
dennis
in reply to: dennis

BTW Jason, are you sure about that "ExportToAutoCAD", cuz in Plant3d 2013, that command is no longer there, and if I type it in, nothing happens (as well the AECtoACAD").  I tried the vanilla AutoCAD too, and it says the commands are not there too.  I admit, I haven't needed to use those commands in the last couple releases and so don't know when exactly they went away.

Message 14 of 21
DarrenP
in reply to: dennis

thats wierd

i tried that here and the command works

how about right clicking on drawing in the project manager and click export to autocad

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Message 15 of 21
dennis
in reply to: DarrenP

OMG, thank you Darren, there the command was as you suggested.  And the really odd thing, once I picked it and exported out the Plant3D dwg, I tried typing the command again and it worked. I closed Plant3d, reopened, typed the command, and it worked.  I then went to our training room, on two PCs I launched Plant3D, typed in EXPORTTOAUTOCAD, and they didn't work.  Select the command from the PM, it worked, and then typing the command worked.  Jeepers, am I gonna hafta quit typing?!? Smiley Frustrated

 

Message 16 of 21
DarrenP
in reply to: dennis

like i said that is weird

something else is going on

i don't think i have ever seen that not work by typing it in the command line

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Message 17 of 21
dennis
in reply to: DarrenP

I agree Darren, now I am thinking something is weird here.  Playing around, I can duplicate the problem when the command line is "on screen at the cursor" versus turning that off and entering at the, let's say, real command line.  I am thinking maybe graphics driver now.  Very weird indeed.

Message 18 of 21
dataone
in reply to: jason.drew

Ok Jason, I exported my Plant 3D work to plain Autocad.  I can open the exported file in plain Autocad and everything is there, pipes, stairs, handrail, & equipment.  Tried to open this file in Showcase and I get the error message "One or more files could not be imported, See the Import Status Window for more information".  In the IS window the file is listed under source files, source units are "no nnits"  conversion settings are 003 small details, Conversion Status is "converted", Load Status is "failed" 

 

What can I try now?

 

Is there a way to get a Navisworks file into Showcase?

Message 19 of 21
BWGREEN
in reply to: dennis

I'm having the same issue with Plant 3d objects not showing up in showcase. Very frustrated because it's a great tool for presentation purposes. Why is this an issue if they're both Autodesk products? What is the fix for this?

Message 20 of 21
dataone
in reply to: BWGREEN

HI
3D Plant to Showcase with all items can be done, check out my youtube video for the procedure.
http://youtu.be/G4gwOEiGBDQ

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