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Plant 3d and ASD cannot cooperate seamlessly?

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followsea
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Plant 3d and ASD cannot cooperate seamlessly?

Plant 3d and ASD cannot cooperate seamlessly?

I use Plant Design Suite. I make steel structure in ASD, then xref it in Plant 3D. Problems is:

1.After Object Enabler installed, ASD models display  detailed(show all roundings etc). This reduce the progame performace seriously. No tools can control it in Plant 3D. Settings in ASD PREFERENCES doesn't affect it either.

2.With regard to ASD models, Osnap cann't work in Plant 3D like that in ASD. I cannot snap almost all contour vetex or midpoint. This makes assembling with other objects in Plant 3D so difficult. 

3. When generate Otho drawing of models including ASD models, the result is so bad.(So useless detailed lines).

Any ideas helpful? Thanks!

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jason.drew
in reply to: followsea

I will check with the development team on these issues and give you an update as soon as possible.

 

Thank you,



Jason Drew
Designated Support Specialist
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jason.drew
in reply to: followsea

Hello,

 

The object enablers for AutoCAD Structural Detailing have recently been updated. Please download, install and let us know the results:

 

AutoCAD Structural Detailing 2012 Object Enablers (32-bit and 64-bit)

 

Thank you,

 



Jason Drew
Designated Support Specialist
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followsea
in reply to: jason.drew

Only resolve the display(Detailing or without roudings, configured in ASD) when you directly open the ASD file in P3D. But when XREF it in P3D, it display detailing, regardless of the configuration.

All other problem  exist.

Another improving is good. P3D can XREF ASD formworks model now, while it always collapse before. But another problem arise: the axis number dissaper when xref it in P3D.

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Thanks.

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kmayland
in reply to: followsea

may be the intelligent SDNF import interface for AutoCAD PLANT 3D is an opportunity for you? Get in contact with Unitec.de for further details.
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Message 6 of 10
Arun_Kumar_K
in reply to: kmayland

The same issue we are facing now?

 

How Autodesk didn't answer this question for more than a year?

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Arun_Kumar_K
in reply to: followsea

Looking for prompt answer from Autodesk in this regard.

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jason.drew
in reply to: followsea

One workaround that has been suggested to me is using "Save model to ACIS solids" from ASD:

 

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This will save the ASD model to a .DWG which can be copied into Plant 3D and attached as an XREF. Object snaps will work and all connection detail (plates/bolts/etc.) will display in the model and on the orthographic views.

 

 

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Jason Drew
Designated Support Specialist
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saravanan
in reply to: followsea

Hi Jason Drew,

 

If we save this as ACIS Solid then the intelligent will loose, so is there a update or hotfix available now?

 

-Saravanan

Saravanan
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@followsea, what procedure did you use to XREF your ASD drawing? I have done the following and the results are a models structural models with a wireframe "visual style" that I can't modify:

 

Procedure A:

1) Right click "Related Files" folder in Project Manager

2) Select "Link to File"

3) Navigate to directory of ASD drawing and select file.

4) Open master drawing

5) Type "Xref" and select file that was linked to project

 

Procedure B:

1) Right-click "Plant 3D Drawings" folder in Project Manager

2) Select "Copy Drawing to Project"

3) Navigate to directory of ASD drawing and select file.

4) Open master drawing

5) Type "Xref" and select file that was linked to project

 

The attached image shows what happens to ASD drawing that has been XREF'ed. Please note that None of the members were welded. I did not group the members or turn them in to assemblies or assign positions.

 

Any advice/help/insight/ideas would be greatly appreciated

 

 

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