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Extended body gate valves (MSW x FPT).

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Message 1 of 34
rkreiss375
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Extended body gate valves (MSW x FPT).

Hello all,

I'm new to plant, but so far I'm fairly happy with the part catalogs.

Unfortunatly I do not see any Extended Body Gate Valves in the catalog, MSW x FPT or MSW x FSW.

Could anbody give me a quick crash corse on how to add these to the catalog.

 

Thanks,

Rod.

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Message 2 of 34
BSchwartzkopf
in reply to: rkreiss375

Has this been fixed in P3D 2014 are there extended body valves now?

Message 3 of 34
patpat79
in reply to: BSchwartzkopf

I am not familiar using the Exetended body valves from the default catalog. I am fond of using and creating custom equipment and components so, my sugestion is that if there isnt any available component yet for extended body valve, maybe you can create a custom valve for your project, which in case you will and can use for another spec or project you will be having. thanks (it's not much of what you desire, but i think it could be a work around.)


Best Regards,
Pat Andres
Autodesk Expert Elite
Plant 3D Administrator
GHD Manila

Message 4 of 34
eski
in reply to: rkreiss375

RodKreiss4326,

 

Hey I also need to use some Extended body gate valves.  I have looked through much of the other catalogs that are available for download and haven't found much. I am in need of a valvolet type extended body gate valve, that behaves much like an olet with just the valve all as one piece (this will be used for vents and drains). I have modeled it up in 3D, blocked it, performed the plantpartconvert, and also added ports (not sure what ports to add for an olet type component).  But I can't get it to work using an olet type category (see pic 2).  Everytime I try to place it in the model (see pic 3), the graphics of the valve turn into like a pipe (see pic 4) and just doesn't work. 

 

My question is this, how should we create these?  If having them behave like an olet is best, can there be detailed steps in creating custom olets?

 

I have created numerous custom components (usually all inline type stuff or gauges), but I cannot seem to find anywhere online how to create a custom olet type part.  

Message 5 of 34
patpat79
in reply to: eski

Please refer to attached picture for sample of olet like port. This is a custom pad i had made because the default pad we are using in 2014 version has iso generation problem.


Best Regards,
Pat Andres
Autodesk Expert Elite
Plant 3D Administrator
GHD Manila

Message 6 of 34
eski
in reply to: patpat79

patpat79,

 

Thanks for the quick response.  I have a question.  So, is your "Port 1" located at what would be the centerline of the pipe you would be attaching this pad too?  If that is the case, I am assuming you create multiple versions of this pad for different sizes of pipes to connect it too.

 

When I created mine, I placed my first port at where the centerline would be.  I would imagine that would be the way it needs to be done to connect to the main pipe.  My problem is, after I insert my part and my cursor is out in space, everything looks good (pic 3), but as soon as I get close to the main pipe I want to connect too (with nearest osnap on), my graphics of my extended body gate valve switch to something compeletly different and connects (pic 4).  It almost looks like just a stub-in pipe.  It won't let me connect using my block I created.  Does this make sense?

Message 7 of 34
rkreiss375
in reply to: eski

eski,

 

I'm interested in the resoloution of your problem because we also have a client that uses Valveolet end valves.

I have strugled with this also.  Hopefully someone can help.

 

Message 8 of 34
patpat79
in reply to: rkreiss375

Had you tried changing the size of the port that will connect to the header same as header size? And it's end type to bv or pl? Thanks 


Best Regards,
Pat Andres
Autodesk Expert Elite
Plant 3D Administrator
GHD Manila

Message 9 of 34
eski
in reply to: patpat79

patpat79,

 

Thanks for the advice.  I tried what you reccommended, but could not get any of it to work.  It still is behaving exactly the same as before.  I have tried many combonations of sizes and end types, but still no luck.  Do you have any other ideas?


Thanks again,

Eli

Message 10 of 34
KenFauver
in reply to: eski

Attached is the catalog with extended body valves. The ZIP file also contains the IsoSymbolStyles.dwg with the new ExtBodyGateValve block for the Valve Skey. You will need to add this entry in the IsoSkeyAcadBlockMap.xml file under the Valves section.

 

<SkeyMap SKEY = "VE??" AcadBlock =" ExtBodyGateValve "/>

 

Vogt.zip

 

If the post answers your question, please mark it as an Accepted Solution, so that others can find answers quickly!


Regards,

Kenneth G. Fauver
Technical Sales Specialist – Plant
Oil and Gas Solutions
Message 11 of 34
gtj1974
in reply to: KenFauver

Ken It will not allow me to download, and tells me to open up a support case. Greg
Message 12 of 34
KenFauver
in reply to: gtj1974

Try this link

 

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26581676/Vogt.txt

 

Note: Rename to Vogt.zip

If the post answers your question, please mark it as an Accepted Solution, so that others can find answers quickly!


Regards,

Kenneth G. Fauver
Technical Sales Specialist – Plant
Oil and Gas Solutions
Message 13 of 34
gtj1974
in reply to: KenFauver

That works for the download. Thanks How can I get the valves to connect to the pipe like a stub-in?
Message 14 of 34
eski
in reply to: KenFauver

KenFauver,

 

Thank you for the link to download the vogt valve catalog.  I have added a couple of the valves with the PL to my spec but when I try to insert them onto my pipe main in plant3d it wants to insert them "in-line".  These need to come off the main perpendicular like an olet.  Will these only work if we first insert a sockolet or threadolet (for the THDM ones) and then connect these valves to the olets?  If so, do you have any thoughts on how to get one to work without an olet?  The type my client wants to use have an integral olet in them (valvolet).  So I don't want to see or report in the BOM and olet and the valve, just the valve.

 

Any further help would be great, thanks!

Message 15 of 34
gtj1974
in reply to: eski

eski That is exactly what I am trying to do also. Let me know if you get something to work. Greg
Message 16 of 34
eski
in reply to: gtj1974

I was able to get my original extended body gate valve block to work using the custom parts palette.  Instead of trying to use "OLET" as part type, I used "Nipple".  This allowed me to place my valve perpendicular to my pipe main and have everything connected.  I had to do some tweaking to the insertion point of the block and the "port 1" location, but it definitely seems to be behaving like I would like it too.  If anyone wants any help with this let me know.  I could only ever get the cookie-cutter response from the Autodesk support, basically saying needs to be looked into further by the development team and may be possible in future releases/service packs.  So if anyone needs this done now, let me know.  I was aided in this solution by IMAGINIT support.  Thanks again.

Message 17 of 34
rkreiss375
in reply to: eski

I like it. How about the Iso?
Message 18 of 34
eski
in reply to: rkreiss375

Hey RodKreiss4326,

 

The ISO ran fine, with no errors (on this small example anyway).  But I didn't change the ISO Skey to anything other than the generic nipple SKEY.  So it looks like the picture attached.  I am going to try some different SKEY's (maybe create my own) and see if I can get something that looks a little better.

 

Message 19 of 34

That content isn't available, or i can't download

Can anyone post a functional link for Vogt.zip?

 

I need some valvolets

 

Thanks 

Message 20 of 34

There are not any valveolets in the Vogt catalog.

Regards,

Ken Fauver
Sr Technical Sales Specialist - Oil & Gas Solutions
225.200.2496
If the post answers your question, please mark it as an Accepted Solution, so that others can find answers quickly!


Regards,

Kenneth G. Fauver
Technical Sales Specialist – Plant
Oil and Gas Solutions

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