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Display Configuration - Orthos

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Message 1 of 19
nawfel.bouzayani
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Display Configuration - Orthos

I created a structural drawing by AutoCAD Structural Detailing Software and then Xref it to Autodesk Plant.

 

When I tried to prepare orthos with the casual manner but I got these lines in themiddles of different walls and pads.

 

Any help on how to remove them?

 

Thank you

 

Nawfel

 NB: see attached picture as example

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Message 2 of 19

Have you refered to the AutoCAD Structural Detailing Services and Support Page?

 

AutoCAD Plant 3D 2013 Object Enablers.

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/dl/item?siteID=123112&id=19165270&linkID=12952913

 

 

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Message 3 of 19

Thank you for answering,

 

I have already that updates but no success.

 

Thank you

 

Nawfel

 

Message 4 of 19
snijdam
in reply to: nawfel.bouzayani

Same issue here. The only difference is that I received the steel model from Tekla. It gives the same result as you. I did not found a solution yet.

Message 5 of 19

Have you verified if you have the AutoCAD Structural Detailing object enablers installed as well?

 

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/dl/item?siteID=123112&id=18968562&linkID=9240618

 

If that does not work, can you attach your drawing file so I can test it for the same results you are getting?

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Quentin Contreras
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Message 6 of 19

couple of extra questions to help clarify the problem

 

are they steel pieces, they look more like a concrete slab to me.

did you use ASD or export from Revit to create them

 

when you xreffed into your plant model, did you add the ASD file to the plant project?

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Message 7 of 19

the structural drawing consist of steel structural frame and concrete walls and pads.

 

I created the drawings in 3D plant design and modify it in ASD to be able to adapt it to 3D.

 

so these structural drawings were modified in ASD.

 

Thank you

 

Message 8 of 19

Where is the XREF located? Did you copy the drawing to the Plant project and then xref the drawing into the Plant 3D drawing?

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Message 9 of 19

All the 3d dwgs are located in the 3d folder. I didn't check if the ask enabler is installed
Message 10 of 19

which one...the 3d foder in windows explorer, or the 3d folder in the plant3d project browser

refer attached

 

hmmm..just noticed something...it may be your workflow thats causing the issue

you said earlier that you created them in plant and then modified in ASD

you cant edit the plant steel and concrete in ASD...did you sdnf out, then bring into revit, then link to ASD

otherwise you will have to 'recreate' the steel in ASD.

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Message 11 of 19
Rich.O.3d
in reply to: snijdam

snijdam

how did you recieve your model from tekla

I think you will need bring it in with the tekla import options from revit, then link it and push the steel into an asd file

 

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Message 12 of 19

see attached rawings.

 

try to xref the structural to the boiler plant and then create orthos.

 

 

Message 13 of 19

For the 3d folder. When you create new project, a 3d folder is created I am talking about that.
I created the structural file in autodesk 3d plant and open it with asd and then draw all the concrete pads and steel frame.
Message 14 of 19
hardell
in reply to: nawfel.bouzayani

Hi,

I have the same problem.

 

Slabs and walls designed in ASD, have diagonal lines in Orthographic Drawings in Plant3d. 

 

I have tried the object enablers, and imported the drawings to Plant 3d. It doesn´t matter if they are xref or not.

 

Autodesk must find a way around this. I must be abel to make walls in ASD and show them whith equipment and piping in Plant in an appropriate way.

 

In general: Where are the settings for plantorthocreate command?

 

Best regards

//Johan

 

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Message 15 of 19

At this time there is no direct way to connect Plant 3D and AutoCAD Structural Design.

 

There is no simple way or easy way to connect both software because both are using completely different shape databases.

 

You could try:

 

1. Export SDNF file from Plant 3D and open it in Revit or Robot Structural Analysis. Then export model to AutoCAD Structural Design.

 

2. You can transfer SAT file from Plant 3D to AutoCAD Structural Design but you cannot proceed in AutoCAD Structural Design with steel detailing.

 

3. DXF, Define in Plant 3D layer that contains steel element axes. Transfer sticky DXF model to AutoCAD Structural Design for lines steel shapes.

 

The above are suggested "workarounds" but should be done with caution, because, as I mentioned both ASD and Plant 3D do use different shape databases. So, make sure you backup prior to trying any of the above suggested workarounds.

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Quentin Contreras
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Message 16 of 19
hardell
in reply to: quentin.contreras

Hi,

 

Thanks for the workaround. However, It does not solve the problem.

 

I can open the ASD dwgs in P3d. Why do I do that? Well if you are drawing a process industry, you want to be able to make walls and buildings around it, and ASD has that functionallity while P3D has not.

 

The problem is that plantorthocreate command makes a line through each wall, and it looks bad.

 

It is impossible to manually remove it sinbce its a "Anynmous block". It souldn´t be that difficult to change in the program., so that walls emerge without it. I have noticed that the same line emerges when using plantorthocreate on models containing hatches.

 

Best regards

//Johan

Message 17 of 19
Arun_Kumar_K
in reply to: hardell

I sent the above ortho issue (ASD to Plant 3d) to Autodesk 4 months back, don't know, when this bug will be resolved.

Message 18 of 19

Hello,

 

I was working with 3d plant design and I did a plantspecupdatecheck. after that many parts was locked and has the lock beside (placement parts locked).

 

can any body help on this issue please? it is really urgent.

 

thank you

 

Nawfel

 

 

Message 19 of 19
hardell
in reply to: Rich.O.3d

Seems like Autodesk is ignoring us...

 

I use the Plant Design Suite. I want ASD and P3D to cooperate.

 

Either to import ASD walls and slabs in P3D, use the plantorthocreate command to generate Equipment Layouts Drawings, or the other way around (equipment, piping, supports to ASD). I dont want to do it in many steps over a multitude of programs that I do not have.

 

//Johan

 

 

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