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Can not connect Pipe to Xref Pipe (Stub-In)

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Message 1 of 14
batone79
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Can not connect Pipe to Xref Pipe (Stub-In)

Hi to Everyone, are there possibility to connect a Pipe to a Xreferenced Pipe in a Model.?

 

I want to say...

 

I got some Equipment with own pipe and tried to connect a Output to a Manifold independ of the area for example a Drain with Stub.In

I know the possibility to do with Flanges and coupling but not with Stub.In.

 

do you know how?!...

 

Thanks.!!

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Message 2 of 14

XREF connecting works fine between Equipment to Piping, and Piping to Piping.

 

Are you connecting to NODE of the XREF'd model?



Tomislav Golubovic
Technical Specialist - Plant and Infrastructure
Autodesk Australia / New Zealand
Autodesk, Inc.
Autodesk ANZ YouTube Channel
Message 3 of 14

thanks for your replay, but my problem is..

 

I got a Area A and has a Output Drain Manifold of ND1000, and this Manifold crossing  Area B, to the end, after Manifold get the end I got a Equipment that need to do a Vertical STUB-IN of ND500 on xref Manifold of Area A.

 

Mater Piping of Area A is Xref to see Manifold ND1000 in Master Piping Area B.

 

I need to do Stub-In, not Flanged, Coupled.........Stub-In Problem.jpg

Message 4 of 14

I'd run the stubin in the first model to the first fitting, then continue the xref from there?



Tomislav Golubovic
Technical Specialist - Plant and Infrastructure
Autodesk Australia / New Zealand
Autodesk, Inc.
Autodesk ANZ YouTube Channel
Message 5 of 14

I think that this is big problem. Not only for stub in, also for o-lets or tees, it seam that Plant3D does not make connection through xref files.

 

It like, that You must in advance plan Yours piping arrangement.

 

We have a lot of problems with this issue..

 

Just imagine , as e.g.

 We have two drawings, it is standard structure when You have Plant Revamp:

one drawing with Old Pipes,

and another drawing with New Pipe system.

 

Then We have some interconnecting pipes, with different diameters, and we hope that plant will add connections automatically according branch connection table for classes that We use in project...BUT WRONG

 

NO CONNECTION ACROSS XREF FILES

 

 

Message 6 of 14
milic.srdjan
in reply to: milic.srdjan

as P. S

 

look at this post

http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/AutoCAD-Plant-3D/Xref-I-do-not-understand/td-p/3042834

 

We have alrady this conversation

Message 7 of 14

It does connect through XREF, you can connect to fittings from other Piping XREF's, and Equipment XREF's



Tomislav Golubovic
Technical Specialist - Plant and Infrastructure
Autodesk Australia / New Zealand
Autodesk, Inc.
Autodesk ANZ YouTube Channel
Message 8 of 14
batone79
in reply to: batone79

[ It does connect through XREF, you can connect to fittings from other Piping XREF's, and Equipment XREF's ]

 

Yes you are right we can connect a Pipe to other xRef Pipe with fittings, flanges and in the end of the pipe with node of xref pipe, I dont know if later work good in ISOs, but


YOU CAN NOT CONNECT A PIPE TO OTHER XREF PIPE WITH A STUB-IN AT HALF OF XREF PIPE.

 

Undertand now Tomislav Golubovic???

 

thanks!

Message 9 of 14
milic.srdjan
in reply to: batone79

Ok,

 

Yes , it is true ...It possible to connect to fitting on xref model..

 

but, it is SO COMPLICATE, because you must plan your model, with fittings on right place, for connection.

It seam that, if You have team of 4 or more designer, become more , and more complicated, to work..

 

much easy if You do not have need for xref model.

 

Srdjan

 

p.s This discussion make another question. I put this in another, let say , new post

 

look link

 

http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/AutoCAD-Plant-3D/Question-for-o-lets/td-p/3379245.

 

 

Message 10 of 14

@batone, I understand the stub-in issue, I was responding to the other poster.



Tomislav Golubovic
Technical Specialist - Plant and Infrastructure
Autodesk Australia / New Zealand
Autodesk, Inc.
Autodesk ANZ YouTube Channel
Message 11 of 14
winner117
in reply to: batone79

Is there any update for this post?

I got the same problem in 2014.Smiley Frustrated

Message 12 of 14
dpreezm
in reply to: batone79

Allthough this is a very old post, I thought it be fair to give a proper solution (if not already inferred by previous posts).

 

Scenario:

 

2 seperate line models exist with each own line number e.g.  Mod A & Mod B with Line 001 in Mod A and line 002 in Mod B. And line 001 needs to connect onto line 002 vie stub-in. Mod A & B xref's each other as Overlay and is synchronised.

 

Workflow:

 

 

1. Create Mod A & B as close as possible without connecting each other.

2. In Mod B where stub in needs to take place make Mod A's line number active (001) and rout from Mod A to line 002.

3. In Mod B there should now be two line numbers present 001 & 002, where 001 is only for the stub in portion to closest fitting in Mod A

4. Save all and reload xref's to be up-to-date.

 

This is a work around but it seems to be most effective.

 

Hope this will help in all future projects.

-=StevieWonder=-
"Trust me, I'm a draftsman"
Message 13 of 14

hi every one,

 

I am working on plant 3d 2020 and would like to know if there are any solution today to this issue.

 

can't connect à pipe from one drawing to xref pipe using stub in functionality...

Message 14 of 14

....and thank you for your help

 
 

screenshot stub in.png

 

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