AutoCAD P&ID General Discussion

AutoCAD P&ID General Discussion

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*Matt Heath
Message 1 of 5 (236 Views)

Integration with ACADE 2007

236 Views, 4 Replies
06-26-2007 01:10 PM
Does P&ID integrate with ACAD Electrical? Specifically the equipment Tags.
For instance can we tag a Flow Switch in P&ID "FS7000" and have ACAD Elec
recognize the Tag. Or can the P&ID symbol be a parent symbol and the flow
switch symbol in Electrical be a child symbol, linked to the P&ID symbol?

Matt Heath
Employee
sivapd
Posts: 133
Registered: ‎08-12-2005
Message 2 of 5 (236 Views)

Re: Integration with ACADE 2007

06-27-2007 03:01 AM in reply to: *Matt Heath
The Data Manager in P&ID provides an export option to save the displayed data into an Excel spreadsheet and an import option to bring back any updated data from the Excel spreadsheet. Can this Excel file be used to send and get information to ACADE?
No other links to ACADE exists today, but we are interested to hear your requirements and consider this for future.

Thanks,
Siva Thankappan
Autodesk Singapore


Siva Thankappan
Technical Sales, Plant Solutions, Asia Pacific
Autodesk Singapore
*Matt Heath
Message 3 of 5 (236 Views)

Re: Integration with ACADE 2007

06-27-2007 08:08 AM in reply to: *Matt Heath
Perhaps the Excel spreadsheet might work, I don't know I haven't tried it
yet.
I guess I was under the false impression that Autodesk was developing the
P&ID package to take the place of the P&ID portion of the Electrical
package. P&ID and Control Panel schematic drawings go hand in hand, like
breathing in and breathing out.
From the ACADE help file:
WDTAGALT
Attribute carried on a parent symbol used for setting up a
"peer-to-peer" relationship. It stores the cross-reference tag name of a
related symbol shown on a different drawing type (ex: instrument drawing or
pneumatic drawing vs. electrical schematic). For example, an instrument
drawing might be included in an AutoCAD Electrical project drawing set with
a valve marked "FY201". On the electrical schematics, the solenoid for this
instrument valve is tagged "SV456". The WDTAGALT attribute carried on the
schematic valve symbol can be annotated with the "FY201" instrument tag name
and a WDTAGALT attribute on the instrument diagram's symbol carries the
"SV456" tag name pointing back at the schematic representation. With this in
place, AutoCAD Electrical can cross-reference between them, do auto-update,
and enable "surfing" from one drawing type to the other.

This provides one scenario for component tags.

I would prefer that the P&ID tag be the parent tag and that the
electrical component tag be a child of the P&ID tag, i.e. only display one
tag "FY201" from the above example.

I only downloaded the trial yesterday afternoon so I haven't had time
to explore the program yet, but I did notice the Project Manager is
different than the one in Electrical. And the Electrical Project Manager is
different than Sheet Set Manager and I believe the Civil 3D manager is
different yet. Does Autodesk intend to continue the develop many different
project/sheet set manager that don't talk or work with each other?

I have been using various versions of AutoCAD since 1989 and I really
don't understand what Autodesk is trying to do with its' products. You are
one company but it doesn't seem as though any of you talk to each other.

Matt






wrote in message news:5639758@discussion.autodesk.com...
The Data Manager in P&ID provides an export option to save the displayed
data into an Excel spreadsheet and an import option to bring back any
updated data from the Excel spreadsheet. Can this Excel file be used to send
and get information to ACADE?
No other links to ACADE exists today, but we are interested to hear your
requirements and consider this for future.

Thanks,
Siva Thankappan
Autodesk Singapore
*Peter Quinn
Message 4 of 5 (236 Views)

Re: Integration with ACADE 2007

06-27-2007 08:31 AM in reply to: *Matt Heath
Matt,

You're looking at a first release. We concentrated on getting the base P&ID
functionality working. The release that's currently in Beta is also focused
on improving P&ID drafting.

We are in the process of defining the requirements for a future release
where we integrate with AutoCAD Electrical and other Autodesk applications.
We've had this on our to do list for since the beginning of the project, but
wanted to concentrate on the P&ID drafting functionality before working on
interfaces.

Peter Quinn
Product Manager
Autodesk Plant Solutions

"Matt Heath" wrote in message
news:5640090@discussion.autodesk.com...
Perhaps the Excel spreadsheet might work, I don't know I haven't tried it
yet.
I guess I was under the false impression that Autodesk was developing the
P&ID package to take the place of the P&ID portion of the Electrical
package. P&ID and Control Panel schematic drawings go hand in hand, like
breathing in and breathing out.
From the ACADE help file:
WDTAGALT
Attribute carried on a parent symbol used for setting up a
"peer-to-peer" relationship. It stores the cross-reference tag name of a
related symbol shown on a different drawing type (ex: instrument drawing or
pneumatic drawing vs. electrical schematic). For example, an instrument
drawing might be included in an AutoCAD Electrical project drawing set with
a valve marked "FY201". On the electrical schematics, the solenoid for this
instrument valve is tagged "SV456". The WDTAGALT attribute carried on the
schematic valve symbol can be annotated with the "FY201" instrument tag name
and a WDTAGALT attribute on the instrument diagram's symbol carries the
"SV456" tag name pointing back at the schematic representation. With this in
place, AutoCAD Electrical can cross-reference between them, do auto-update,
and enable "surfing" from one drawing type to the other.

This provides one scenario for component tags.

I would prefer that the P&ID tag be the parent tag and that the
electrical component tag be a child of the P&ID tag, i.e. only display one
tag "FY201" from the above example.

I only downloaded the trial yesterday afternoon so I haven't had time
to explore the program yet, but I did notice the Project Manager is
different than the one in Electrical. And the Electrical Project Manager is
different than Sheet Set Manager and I believe the Civil 3D manager is
different yet. Does Autodesk intend to continue the develop many different
project/sheet set manager that don't talk or work with each other?

I have been using various versions of AutoCAD since 1989 and I really
don't understand what Autodesk is trying to do with its' products. You are
one company but it doesn't seem as though any of you talk to each other.

Matt






wrote in message news:5639758@discussion.autodesk.com...
The Data Manager in P&ID provides an export option to save the displayed
data into an Excel spreadsheet and an import option to bring back any
updated data from the Excel spreadsheet. Can this Excel file be used to send
and get information to ACADE?
No other links to ACADE exists today, but we are interested to hear your
requirements and consider this for future.

Thanks,
Siva Thankappan
Autodesk Singapore
Active Contributor
earnold
Posts: 46
Registered: ‎02-22-2003
Message 5 of 5 (236 Views)

Re: Integration with ACADE 2007

04-02-2008 12:22 PM in reply to: *Matt Heath
Does P&ID work with AutoCAD sheet set manager?
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