Anchors and Masking for Building systems light fixtures and ceiling diffusers

[Anonymous]

The lighting designer usually lays out the ceiling grid and light fixtures,
not the architect.
Light fixtures in Building systems are not the same fixtures in
Architectural desktop and therefore are not anchorable and incapable of
masking the ceiling grids.
There needs to be some way for the Building systems light fixtures to be
Anchorable to and masking of the Architectural ceiling grids.
That way, if the room configuration changes and the ceiling grid is moved,
the light fixtures will follow.
Currently, we have to draw the ceiling grids in Architectural, then locate
the light fixtures in Building systems xref'd to the ceiling plan. Then, in
order to mask the grid, we have to open the ceiling plan, xref the
electrical lighting plan and insert the Architectural lighting symbols over
the Electrical symbols.
As one of the few full users of the Architectural Desktop and building
systems 2004 packages, I can tell you this is one extra drawing step we
hadn't counted on!
It gets to be quite a chore when you are looking at a building with thousads
of fixtures.
All of the above also applies to the mechanical design objects such as
ceiling diffusers.
Please try to find a way to use the MEP objects with masking and anchoring
in the Architectural ceiling grids.

[Anonymous]

I whole-heartedly agree with you. I layout the ceiling grid/fixtures and
currently we simply layout the grid using the ceiling grid tool, drop in our
"devices" and explode and trim the grid if any fixtures cross a grid
section. It's a pain but currently the only viable solution IMO. I hear
you can work around it and make a device just for the connection points but
you still have to insert every fixture twice. Oh and make it work through
the xref barrier 😃

"Mike Abernethy" wrote in message
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> The lighting designer usually lays out the ceiling grid and light
fixtures,
> not the architect.
> Light fixtures in Building systems are not the same fixtures in
> Architectural desktop and therefore are not anchorable and incapable of
> masking the ceiling grids.
> There needs to be some way for the Building systems light fixtures to be
> Anchorable to and masking of the Architectural ceiling grids.
> That way, if the room configuration changes and the ceiling grid is moved,
> the light fixtures will follow.
> Currently, we have to draw the ceiling grids in Architectural, then locate
> the light fixtures in Building systems xref'd to the ceiling plan. Then,
in
> order to mask the grid, we have to open the ceiling plan, xref the
> electrical lighting plan and insert the Architectural lighting symbols
over
> the Electrical symbols.
> As one of the few full users of the Architectural Desktop and building
> systems 2004 packages, I can tell you this is one extra drawing step we
> hadn't counted on!
> It gets to be quite a chore when you are looking at a building with
thousads
> of fixtures.
> All of the above also applies to the mechanical design objects such as
> ceiling diffusers.
> Please try to find a way to use the MEP objects with masking and anchoring
> in the Architectural ceiling grids.
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