2004-3-s8

[Anonymous]

We've got a brand new, shiny ABS 2004. So far it is much better than
anything else before. On the other hand, don't have too much use of it. I've
tried it, and here is how that might work for me:
Load R14/S8 on your computer;
Load ABS 3.0 on your computer;
Load ABS 2004 on your computer.
Open all backgrounds from architect with 2004, convert it to 2000.
Open these 2000 backgrounds in ABS 3 and save as R14.
Draw your centerlines in R14, export system geometry and run your Elite
calculations.
Go back to 2004 and continue.

This looks like a little nightmare, particularly when I've learned that we
can legally keep ABS3 on the machine for limited time only.

Can anything be done about it?
Short of interfacing 2004 with external programs, personally, I would
appreciate having an utility allowing exporting geometry data to an Excel
file.

sp

[Anonymous]

Slawomir -

ABS builds a virtual construction model of your designs. Although the
benefits to having a design that you know fits before you build it are many,
these were not the only reasons for a full 3D model. There is a tremendous
amount of data available in that model that can be used for other activities
such as analysis and estimation/fabrication. Making that data readily
available for use by third parties as well as in applications such as Excel
is an extremely high priority for the development team.

But, as a very famous person once noted, you need to be able to draw it
first otherwise you wouldn't need AutoCAD... After 4 releases, I hope that
you can now "draw it"

BTW, the latest version of Elite Ductsize is already reading the ABS 2004
model...


"Slawomir Popiel" wrote in message
news:60093B4872E6C90CE2F04C7B83FC30B9@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> We've got a brand new, shiny ABS 2004. So far it is much better than
> anything else before. On the other hand, don't have too much use of it.
I've
> tried it, and here is how that might work for me:
> Load R14/S8 on your computer;
> Load ABS 3.0 on your computer;
> Load ABS 2004 on your computer.
> Open all backgrounds from architect with 2004, convert it to 2000.
> Open these 2000 backgrounds in ABS 3 and save as R14.
> Draw your centerlines in R14, export system geometry and run your Elite
> calculations.
> Go back to 2004 and continue.
>
> This looks like a little nightmare, particularly when I've learned that we
> can legally keep ABS3 on the machine for limited time only.
>
> Can anything be done about it?
> Short of interfacing 2004 with external programs, personally, I would
> appreciate having an utility allowing exporting geometry data to an Excel
> file.
>
> sp
>
>

[Anonymous]

Peter
Of course I can draw it, although in order to draw it, first I have to know
what I'm drawing, i.e. calculate it. Companies such as Elite or Trane came
up with software helping to calculate and it is a tremendous time saving.
However, manual transfering data from ABS to Elite, or rather lack of such
utility is a downside, killing any productivity.
I thing that you are missing my point. I don't care whether this thing does
a virtual model or not. I don't want to use all past versions of the ABS
including S8 on same project. That's all.
As to "tremendous amount of data available in that model that can be used
for other activities", I have to admit that I cannot care less. I want a
software peer to S8 for starters, that I can plan, calculate and draw with.
Ulitimately, number of mouse clicks needed to complete a design is one of
the factors measuring productivity. The other is time between clicks needed
to figure out why I want to click and what I suppose to achieve.
sp



"Peter Terwilliger [Autodesk]" wrote in
message news:E757927E57C476A45246195556DA71F2@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Slawomir -
>
> ABS builds a virtual construction model of your designs. Although the
> benefits to having a design that you know fits before you build it are
many,
> these were not the only reasons for a full 3D model. There is a
tremendous
> amount of data available in that model that can be used for other
activities
> such as analysis and estimation/fabrication. Making that data readily
> available for use by third parties as well as in applications such as
Excel
> is an extremely high priority for the development team.
>
> But, as a very famous person once noted, you need to be able to draw it
> first otherwise you wouldn't need AutoCAD... After 4 releases, I hope
that
> you can now "draw it"
>
> BTW, the latest version of Elite Ductsize is already reading the ABS 2004
> model...
>
>
> "Slawomir Popiel" wrote in message
> news:60093B4872E6C90CE2F04C7B83FC30B9@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > We've got a brand new, shiny ABS 2004. So far it is much better than
> > anything else before. On the other hand, don't have too much use of it.
> I've
> > tried it, and here is how that might work for me:
> > Load R14/S8 on your computer;
> > Load ABS 3.0 on your computer;
> > Load ABS 2004 on your computer.
> > Open all backgrounds from architect with 2004, convert it to 2000.
> > Open these 2000 backgrounds in ABS 3 and save as R14.
> > Draw your centerlines in R14, export system geometry and run your Elite
> > calculations.
> > Go back to 2004 and continue.
> >
> > This looks like a little nightmare, particularly when I've learned that
we
> > can legally keep ABS3 on the machine for limited time only.
> >
> > Can anything be done about it?
> > Short of interfacing 2004 with external programs, personally, I would
> > appreciate having an utility allowing exporting geometry data to an
Excel
> > file.
> >
> > sp
> >
> >
>
>