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SINGLE LINE PIPE DISPLAY

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09-24-2012 06:06 AM

I draw all my piping in 2 line using the MEP DESIGN display configuration.  Then for plotting, switch to STANDARD display configuration.  I have figured out how to get the RISE/DROP symbols to scale the way i want using STYLE MANAGER.  I can not get the REDUCING COUPLINGS or BALL VALVES to scale typical to the RISE/DROP symbols. What am i missing?

I am using 2012 MEP.  I have attached a screen shot.

The "standard" display is not an MEP display.  We have the "standard" display because of a requirement from Core AutoCAD.  You will notice in Style Manager that all have a "standard" style as well.  Same requirement.  It has basic defaults (like a template) but should not be used as your "primary" display to be used.  My recommendation is not to use it unless using it as a starting point to make a new display.  Stick with "MEP Design" or "Pipe By Size."  These two displays use the Pipe System Definition > Single Line Graphics tab.  On this tab, you set the threshold between 2-line pipe, 1-line pipe and graphical 1-line.  You also set the size of the symbolic valves and fittings.  Rise-drop symbols may not yet obey the settings.  If memory serves, that was an exception to the feature.  You should log feedback at the feedback site here.

Hope this helps,

Joshua

 

 


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Re: SINGLE LINE PIPE DISPLAY

10-01-2012 01:25 PM in reply to: jerry.wms

The "standard" display is not an MEP display.  We have the "standard" display because of a requirement from Core AutoCAD.  You will notice in Style Manager that all have a "standard" style as well.  Same requirement.  It has basic defaults (like a template) but should not be used as your "primary" display to be used.  My recommendation is not to use it unless using it as a starting point to make a new display.  Stick with "MEP Design" or "Pipe By Size."  These two displays use the Pipe System Definition > Single Line Graphics tab.  On this tab, you set the threshold between 2-line pipe, 1-line pipe and graphical 1-line.  You also set the size of the symbolic valves and fittings.  Rise-drop symbols may not yet obey the settings.  If memory serves, that was an exception to the feature.  You should log feedback at the feedback site here.

Hope this helps,

Joshua

 

 


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Re: SINGLE LINE PIPE DISPLAY

10-02-2012 04:47 AM in reply to: jerry.wms
Joshua,
I was hoping ther would be a way to set up one display (MEP DESIGN) to show all pipe two line and a second display (???) single line. That way, instead of having to go back into style manager, i could just switch my display modes. It is just my personal preference to draw everything in two line and plot in single line. I hope that makes sense.
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Re: SINGLE LINE PIPE DISPLAY

10-02-2012 08:41 AM in reply to: jerry.wms

The display "MEP Basic 2-Line" is a performance display that cuts out all calculations.  That includes the one line by size calculation for piping.  It forces all pipe to be 2-line.  Use that for modeling.  Then in your sheet or paperspace, set it to "Mechanical - Pipe By Size."  The pipe by size display recognizes that sometimes you want 1-line and in some cases 2-line.  So small pipes are almost always 1-line, not just for simplicity but because the lines don't blend when plotted.  Sometimes you may want large diameter pipes (like a large main), to be 2-line with all smaller branches as 1-line.  The point is that with pipe by size display, you control when pipes show as 1-line or 2-line by raising or lowering the threshold.  If you always want 1-line, set the limit in the system definition to a rarely used large diameter.  All pipes fall below that limit and show as 1-line.  You end up with a 1-line display, but have more control when needed.

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Joshua

 


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Re: SINGLE LINE PIPE DISPLAY

10-02-2012 01:14 PM in reply to: jerry.wms
That's exactly what i was looking for. Thanks
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