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jerry.wms
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Registered: ‎12-18-2009
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PIPE TAG WITH LEADER

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10-10-2012 11:03 AM

Please see the attached snap shot.  I am using the OTB PIPE TAG with leader.  My problem is, the leader always attaches to the left side of the text. I have been through all the properties i can find for the tag and for the dimension style.   I know how to adjust it on a typical leader but I can not find the setting for the tag.

The Leadered Tags are really a 'Schedule Tag' that was inherited from Architectural Desktop days.

The 'Schedule Tag' is using leader functionality from a dimension style.  If you manually draw a leader with the stock Leader command and do not put text on it, the land or hook goes away...  The 'Schedule Tag' use this 'textless' leader. The 'Schedule Tag' itself, is actually an MvBlock.

We did tags for our pipe... but we found we had to make two different MvBlocks... one for the right handed case and one for the left handed case. This required two different AutoCAD blocks one with insertion point on the left and one with the insertion point on the right. If you get the wrong MvBlock... say the one for the right hand MvBlock on a left handed leader you can just swap out the right handed MvBlock for the lefted handed one.

 

Joshua is partly correct... if the tag you are using is really not a tag but a Label Curve - these do align with the object as Joshua said... changing the angle with an Label Curve is very convoluted as the angle is in relationship to the pipe's internal coordinate system.

I've not found a way to have Label Curve use a Leader, although I think it may be possible with a Leader Anchor - although I doubt it. 

 

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Joshua.Benoist
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Registered: ‎08-23-2006
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Re: PIPE TAG WITH LEADER

10-17-2012 10:37 AM in reply to: jerry.wms

There is no setting.  The tag and leader orient to the direction the pipe segment was originally drawn.  I suspect (haen't tried) that if you draw a segment in opposite direction, then tag, you will get a left handed tag, but a right handed tag will extent thru the text.  It is a current limitation in the tags.

 

We do believe that this would be very helpful to have in the program, and feel that you raise a very good case for enhancing the product.

 

If you would take the time to go here: http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112&id=1109794      

 

This is a feedback page where customers can make suggestions. This page is monitored by product managers who affect real change and this request can go a long way in changing the product for the better.       Please let us know your impression and if this helps.  Have a great day.

 

Joshua

 

 


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mdhutchinson
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Registered: ‎11-18-2003
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Re: PIPE TAG WITH LEADER

10-17-2012 02:38 PM in reply to: jerry.wms

The Leadered Tags are really a 'Schedule Tag' that was inherited from Architectural Desktop days.

The 'Schedule Tag' is using leader functionality from a dimension style.  If you manually draw a leader with the stock Leader command and do not put text on it, the land or hook goes away...  The 'Schedule Tag' use this 'textless' leader. The 'Schedule Tag' itself, is actually an MvBlock.

We did tags for our pipe... but we found we had to make two different MvBlocks... one for the right handed case and one for the left handed case. This required two different AutoCAD blocks one with insertion point on the left and one with the insertion point on the right. If you get the wrong MvBlock... say the one for the right hand MvBlock on a left handed leader you can just swap out the right handed MvBlock for the lefted handed one.

 

Joshua is partly correct... if the tag you are using is really not a tag but a Label Curve - these do align with the object as Joshua said... changing the angle with an Label Curve is very convoluted as the angle is in relationship to the pipe's internal coordinate system.

I've not found a way to have Label Curve use a Leader, although I think it may be possible with a Leader Anchor - although I doubt it. 

 

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mlmoore
Posts: 32
Registered: ‎12-11-2008
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Re: PIPE TAG WITH LEADER

10-18-2012 04:00 AM in reply to: jerry.wms

The way our office worked around that is to make two separate tags, one right reading the other left reading then added them to the commands and added them to the middle mouse button so they are handily available when labeling pipe and fittings.

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