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have been a Mechanical Designer for over 17 years and have been using AutoCad
since early R12. I have been very heavely involved with 3D, and always been an
advocate for 3D until now. Autodesk, you have driven me as crazy as I care to
ever feel about your product at this point. We Designers and Drafters need to
produce drawings for construction contractors and that is it!!!!! If you
cannot develope software to make our job easy enough to create these drawings,
please do not attempt to do so. Your trying to please everyone on this planet
and forgetting about the importance of making the basic tools work for the
majority. I am not in your shoes and I am sure it is difficult and
frustrating, but if your frustrating me, you are sure is heck frustrating an
entire community. I know what I need to get my job done quickly and with
quality, and I will be looking for that tool in the near future!
Aaron
Advance Design
agray2@rochester.rr.com
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"bil-with-one-L" <is
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there any reason you can't just continue to create 3D drawings with vanilla
AutoCAD? -- It seems to me that if the level of frustration you're
experiencing is greater than the results that you get by using the product
that you should probably use the product that you get productivity with. -- I
love Vanilla AutoCAD's 3D, I look forward to working with it when ever
possible. -- on teh other hand... ABS has some neat features, and while
they're probably not all perfect for everybody's needs.. they are probably
part of teh evolution of a tool that might someday make most of us happy. --
maybe i'm just an optimist... I'm certainly not as experienced in building
systems design as you are... I've admitted to being just a CAD guy. I do
disagree with this statement though "We Designers and Drafters need to produce
drawings for construction contractors and that is it!!!!!" -- I'm a big fan of
online collaboaration... I'd like to see a day where the information in my
design files are accessible not only by construction contractors, but anyone
else involved in a project who is effected by that information. -- I imagine a
world where my design files become a central point of data... and that is why
I'm forcing myself through this learning curve that I find so frustrating at
times. There will always be designers who only produce drawings for
construction contractors... but some of us do want more and 5 years ago what
did we have... well we have something now and hopefully in 5 years it will be
exponetially greater... and perhaps the comments that you and I make today
will halp shape that product. -- I did say that i was an optimist right? :^)
-- there's my 98 cents.