during the day I've created more sizes in the trench drain file so I'll repost that to customer files. I've also created a solids interceptor. As long as no one has a problem with my posting these there.. I'll keep posting files that don't currently exist that I'm forced to create to accomodate my jobs. I realize that these are probably not the popular mvpart... but when you need them... boy it's nice to have it already drawn.