AutoCAD MEP General Discussion

AutoCAD MEP General Discussion

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*Davis, Rob
Message 11 of 26 (113 Views)

Re:

07-15-2003 08:09 PM in reply to: bil-with-one-L
A. Jay Holland wrote:
> Hey Guys,
> I'm currently a AutoDesk Revit, one of many anticipating the
> eventual integration of Building Mechanical Systems features into the
> Revit Building Information Modeling system.

How do we get in on this, I for one would be VERY interested in doing
this. As I am sure this is the direction in which Autodesk and the users
are going in the future anyway. It would be GREAT to get in on the
ground floor.
Thanks
Rob
*Davis, Rob
Message 12 of 26 (113 Views)

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07-15-2003 08:15 PM in reply to: bil-with-one-L
I think this would be of GREAT interest to everyone!

Julian Gonzalez [Autodesk] wrote:
> If there is enough interest, we may be able to get a newsgroup for ABS
> that is similar to the arch-desktop.content but specifically for ABS.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Julian
>
> "bil-with-one-L" > > wrote in message
> news:f17764e.-1@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> is there a place where we can all submit 3d Mvparts that we create?
> -- If not... can we make such a place and is anyone else even
> interested in this? -- I know that a common complaint made by myself
> as well as those who post here most frequently is a lack of 3D
> content in the form of Mvparts. Maybe if we all start submitting our
> standard non proprietary Mvparts to a central location it would help
> to make other's jobs easier. I know we all wish that Autodesk would
> just give it all to us, but they didn't and the way i see it... why
> is any of us reinventing the wheel... we're all in the same boat...
> we all need these mvparts. -- What about you autodesk? will you give
> us a location to put these ABS specific Mvparts if anyone is even
> interested in this? -- Those of you who have done this for a while,
> would you be willing to submit Mvparts? -- Am I insane for wanting
> this and or suggesting it? I'd be willing to spend two hours a week
> creating some new part to donate to the cause and would even take
> requests... that's 52 parts a year just from me... that's what I
> have to offer.
>
*Holland, A. Jay
Message 13 of 26 (113 Views)

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07-16-2003 12:05 AM in reply to: bil-with-one-L
Rob:

 

The first thing to do would be to
download the software and check it out. There are sample models of several
building types available. The development plan for Revit is reported to include
structural, mechanical, and electrical design features, but the BMS features are
probably several versions away. It's still not too early for BMS users to start
lobbying their interests.

 

Revit is distinct in that a
building entire database is contained in a single file.

face="Century Gothic">Revit BMS users will design their systems by accessing
information directly from a shared 3d model.  Fixture locations, materials
of construction, room dimensions, its all there. The drafting and document
production features are obviously already in place.

 

It's interesting that so many users in
these disciplines "get it" when it comes to 3D. Revit is targeted at the
majority of Acad users who only use CAD as an electronic drawing
board.

 

A. Jay Holland

 

 

>
>
> A. Jay
Holland wrote:
> > Hey Guys,
> > I'm currently a AutoDesk
Revit, one of many anticipating the
> > eventual integration of
Building Mechanical Systems features into the
> > Revit Building
Information Modeling system.
>
> How do we get in on this, I for
one would be VERY interested in doing
> this. As I am sure this is the
direction in which Autodesk and the users
> are going in the future
anyway. It would be GREAT to get in on the
> ground floor.
>
Thanks
> Rob
>
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afielderjeg
Posts: 7
Registered: ‎07-20-2004
Message 14 of 26 (113 Views)

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07-26-2004 11:19 AM in reply to: bil-with-one-L
I have been researching this topic for the better part of this afternoon, and I take it that it still has not happened. I have not been using ABS05 for very long (Jun 04), but once I get up to speed, I will definitely have some MvParts. I am currently looking for 14" and above BHP (Butterfly High Performance) valves. A job that I am currently drawing in 2D, is very tight, and I need all the information that I can get. I am using the spec sheets I have on the valves, but (like I said earlier) I have not had a chance to try and figure out how to create a MvPart from scratch. I am self teaching myself this program, other than the general overview that I received at my ABS 05 training. Any amount of help would be GREATLY appreciated. As I become more proficient with this software, I am sure that I will be able to contribute.
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eyesaqua
Posts: 11
Registered: ‎07-22-2004
Message 15 of 26 (113 Views)

Re: ! a question and a suggestion - please read this !

07-26-2004 11:37 AM in reply to: bil-with-one-L
I would be interested. This is a great idea. I think a lot of people would be sending there parts to share.
*R. Robert Bell
Message 16 of 26 (113 Views)

Re: ! a question and a suggestion - please read this !

07-26-2004 11:45 AM in reply to: bil-with-one-L
This has been discussed just in the last week or two. The thread you just replied to is over a year old. FYI: Post MvParts here in this discussion group, prefixed with "MvPart: " in the title of the post. So, for example, a supply diffuser the post might be titled: "MvPart: My Cool Supply Diffuser". -- R. Robert Bell "eyesaqua" wrote in message news:1998436.1090867089118.JavaMail.jive@jiveforum2... I would be interested. This is a great idea. I think a lot of people would be sending there parts to share.
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ctindall
Posts: 63
Registered: ‎05-07-2004
Message 17 of 26 (113 Views)

Re: ! a question and a suggestion - please read this !

09-27-2004 06:39 PM in reply to: bil-with-one-L
The folks at the Autodesk Users Group (AUGI) are revamping their Exchange application to incorporate MVParts. There is has been no indication on when it will be completed.

http://www.augi.com/exchange/default.asp
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jayportland
Posts: 139
Registered: ‎03-08-2005
Message 18 of 26 (113 Views)

Re: ! a question and a suggestion - please read this !

04-07-2005 10:26 AM in reply to: bil-with-one-L
Hey guys,
Someone mentioned Butterfly valves. I ran into the same problem. I was working on a central utility plant design and piping that is up to 30" in diameter. I noticed that the standard ABS catalog was defined in an *.xml file but it only went to size 12".

I wound up creating a supplementary catalog that was custom sizes; 14" up to 30" butterfly valves. I drew each of the valves in solid modeling from the manufacture cut sheets with proper dimensions and all of that, then I defined the MVblock views from that 3D model of each of the valves.

The cool thing about this is that each of the valves was not just a MVPart, it had the connectors defined at the appropriate lengths and the schematic symbols looked right and the top views were standard 2 line, but the best part was that I found a few interferences (valve handle) that I normally would not have seen if it was just regular 2D drafting.

Custom content? Hell yeah!
Valuable to others? Possibly some day.
Should this be shared? I would like to think so.

Not only that, but I also had to draw the following:
• Custom Chillers
• Custom Cooling Towers
• Custom Air Handlers
• Custom Air Compressors
• Custom Expansion Tanks
• Custom Split Case Pumps
• Custom Air Separators
• Custom VFD's
• Custom Electrical Pull Boxes
• Custom 55 Gallon drums
• Custom Diesel Generators
• Custom Radiators

The list goes on and on. I realize that I might be using some of these items in future projects and that I should organize my drawings a little better. But there is a lot of content that I made. I could share it, if there was a place to put it all.

Jay Ayala
Mechanical Designer
Portland, OR
*NONE
Message 19 of 26 (113 Views)

Re: ! a question and a suggestion - please read this !

04-08-2005 08:44 AM in reply to: bil-with-one-L
good stuff!! we are just starting adt/abs. how long did it take you to reach this level of production? "jayportland" wrote in message news:10175627.1112894845700.JavaMail.jive@jiveforum2.autodesk.com... Hey guys, Someone mentioned Butterfly valves. I ran into the same problem. I was working on a central utility plant design and piping that is up to 30" in diameter. I noticed that the standard ABS catalog was defined in an *.xml file but it only went to size 12". I wound up creating a supplementary catalog that was custom sizes; 14" up to 30" butterfly valves. I drew each of the valves in solid modeling from the manufacture cut sheets with proper dimensions and all of that, then I defined the MVblock views from that 3D model of each of the valves. The cool thing about this is that each of the valves was not just a MVPart, it had the connectors defined at the appropriate lengths and the schematic symbols looked right and the top views were standard 2 line, but the best part was that I found a few interferences (valve handle) that I normally would not have seen if it was just regular 2D drafting. Custom content? Hell yeah! Valuable to others? Possibly some day. Should this be shared? I would like to think so. Not only that, but I also had to draw the following: . Custom Chillers . Custom Cooling Towers . Custom Air Handlers . Custom Air Compressors . Custom Expansion Tanks . Custom Split Case Pumps . Custom Air Separators . Custom VFD's . Custom Electrical Pull Boxes . Custom 55 Gallon drums . Custom Diesel Generators . Custom Radiators The list goes on and on. I realize that I might be using some of these items in future projects and that I should organize my drawings a little better. But there is a lot of content that I made. I could share it, if there was a place to put it all. Jay Ayala Mechanical Designer Portland, OR
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jayportland
Posts: 139
Registered: ‎03-08-2005
Message 20 of 26 (113 Views)

Re: ! a question and a suggestion - please read this !

04-08-2005 09:32 AM in reply to: bil-with-one-L
Quote: Originally posted by NONE

good stuff!!

we are just starting adt/abs.

how long did it take you to reach this level of production?

End Quote

Well let me put it this way. The piping layout, and the HVAC that you see along with all of the equipment took me about 40 hours worth of work. The majority of that time was spent on creating the MVparts equipment.

However, I have to be honest, I have spent over 300 hours total time on this model. Don't get me wrong, the initial production was fast, but the constant tweaking and design changes that occur durring the life of the project is where all of my time was invested. What you are not seeing is the entire building model. That image is only the ground floor. There is a bunch of stuff on the Roof, and even more in the basement. Anyway, you get the idea.

Jay Ayala
Mechanical Designer
Portland Oregon
HDR Inc.
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