Separate

Separate

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Separate

Anonymous
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I used UNION command to union A and B. Now I want to separate it, how it is possible. I don’t want to use EXPLOADE command because it can make every individual part in A and B separate. Screenshot and Drawing is attached.

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Anonymous
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I have solved this problem. Please ignore this.
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JDMather
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The threads in your fastners (hex head screws and nuts) are not modeled correctly.


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Anonymous
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Can you tell me please the error?
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JDMather
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Have you ever held fasteners such as these in your hand?

If so, you should be able to easily see how they don't match real world parts.  Not even close!

 

Thread not modeled correctly in the nut. (see red)

Thread not terminated correctly on the cylinder and pitch incorrect (should be same distance root-to-root as crest-to-crest).

 

All Wrong.PNG


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Anonymous
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I couldn’t understand your explanation. I attach Fastener specification given in tutorial.

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JDMather
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1. The "tutorial" drawing is wrong.

2. You part does not match the incorrect tutorial drawing.  Not even close.  It should be visually obvious.


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Anonymous
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Please take a trouble to produce a correct tutorial drawing.
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JDMather
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@Anonymous wrote:
Please take a trouble to produce a correct tutorial drawing.

I can't help but wonder, "Where is your instructor?"


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Anonymous
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If you can give me a correct drawing then only I can show to my instructor and pin point the error in her drawing.
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JDMather
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There is not a thread size .5-10 UNC , it should be .5-13 UNC (Pitch =1/13=.077) and the tap drill sze (minor diameter) is .417 not .375

 

But the error on the drawing does not solve the problem that your model does not match the drawing. 

Your threads simply won't work.  The parts will not go together.


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Anonymous
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My instructor accept the error in her drawing. Thank you for pinpointing me the error.
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Anonymous
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Thank you for your tutorial as well.
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Anonymous
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Can you tell me please how did you find out nut and bolt are not modeled correctly?
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JDMather
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It is so obvious I don't know how anybody could miss the errors.

Go to the hardware store and purchase a nut and bolt (larger is better).

 

Now go back to your computer and compare the nut and bolt that you are holding in your hand to the image that I attached is post #5.  See any obvious differences?  (Tip:  Look in the red areas.)


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Anonymous
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Please see whether dimesions are correct now.Fasteners.png

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dgorsman
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As a counterpoint to JDMather - AutoCAD and verticals aren't as good at modeling complex geometry as Inventor and other tools, which are designed from the ground up for mechanical design.  In the AutoCAD world we usually skip such low level details as actual physical threads (even Inventor kinda-sorta does that), and instead focus on more macro aspects of the design - for example total length of bolt, diameter, and how many.

 

But its still important to understand basic design concepts and terms such as UNC, pitch angle, and so on so the drawing has correct information.

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