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Use Microsoft streets and trips to make map

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Message 1 of 19
Ralph6410
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Use Microsoft streets and trips to make map

Would it be possible to use the GPS locating device supplied with Microsoft Streets and Trips to make a map? For example.. have AutoCAD 3D running on my notebook, my GPS device from Microsoft Streets and Trips plugged in and drive along a road. AutoCAD 3D recording the data and drawing a line as I drive.

If this is not possible from the GPS device provided by Microsoft Streets and Trips are there any other GPS sensors that would work in this manner?

Thanks for your time
Ralph
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Message 2 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Ralph6410

Out of the box there is no way to do it. You would need to create a routine
in a dot.net application to read the input from the GPS unit and then draw
it in the AutoCAD editor.

You can use a dwf with coordinate assigned to it in the dwf viewer, Design
Review with a GPS unit and it will plot your current location on the map.


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Murph
http://map3d.wordpress.com/


"Ralph6410" wrote in message news:6362293@discussion.autodesk.com...
Would it be possible to use the GPS locating device supplied with Microsoft
Streets and Trips to make a map? For example.. have AutoCAD 3D running on my
notebook, my GPS device from Microsoft Streets and Trips plugged in and
drive along a road. AutoCAD 3D recording the data and drawing a line as I
drive.

If this is not possible from the GPS device provided by Microsoft Streets
and Trips are there any other GPS sensors that would work in this manner?

Thanks for your time
Ralph
Message 3 of 19
rick-chappell
in reply to: Ralph6410

I also haven't seen any 3rd party apps to log the NMEA data from a GPS and create objects on the fly. We used to have our folks use GPS2CAD to bring in the tracks and points after the trip. The question is if the GPS that came with M$ Streets and trips will save tracks and points to a file. I've used it with my cheap little etrex with decent results.

Rick Chappell
http://www.cadsoft-consult.com/blogs/geo/
Message 4 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Ralph6410

I'm tinkering in writing an arx to bring in a GPX file. I been using the DNR
Garmin and GSAK to bring in some geocache points.


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Murph
http://map3d.wordpress.com/


"rick-chappell" wrote in message news:6362814@discussion.autodesk.com...
I also haven't seen any 3rd party apps to log the NMEA data from a GPS and
create objects on the fly. We used to have our folks use GPS2CAD to bring in
the tracks and points after the trip. The question is if the GPS that came
with M$ Streets and trips will save tracks and points to a file. I've used
it with my cheap little etrex with decent results.

Rick Chappell
http://www.cadsoft-consult.com/blogs/geo/
Message 5 of 19
Ralph6410
in reply to: Ralph6410

If you want some one to test drive it.....

Thanks all for considering my question... Perhaps some clever programmer can make a "plug in" that would do this... I can see something like that... capture data points from a GPS... would be a desirable feature for a program like AutoCAD Map 3D
Message 6 of 19
rick-chappell
in reply to: Ralph6410

Murph,
Are you just bringing in points, or are you going to try to recreate tracks into AutoCAD objects?
Rick Chappell
http://www.cadsoft-consult.com/blogs/geo/
Message 7 of 19
rick-chappell
in reply to: Ralph6410

Murph,
Are you just bringing in points, or are you going to try to recreate tracks into AutoCAD objects?
Rick Chappell
http://www.cadsoft-consult.com/blogs/geo/
Message 8 of 19
rick-chappell
in reply to: Ralph6410

Murph,
Are you just bringing in points, or are you trying to create line objects from the tracks?
Rick Chappell
http://www.cadsoft-consult.com/blogs/geo/
Message 9 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Ralph6410

Just points for right now.

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Murph
http://map3d.wordpress.com/


"rick-chappell" wrote in message news:6363058@discussion.autodesk.com...
Murph,
Are you just bringing in points, or are you going to try to recreate
tracks into AutoCAD objects?
Rick Chappell
http://www.cadsoft-consult.com/blogs/geo/
Message 10 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Ralph6410

I agree that you cannot hookup a GPS unit directly to Autocad to do what you want.

A little over a year ago, I purchased a program that allowed me to transfer Autocad 2004 Map drawings in NAD-83Iowa State Plane North and South Coordinate System to my Garmin GPS III Plus and Delorme Street Atlas Plus 2009. I can save as GPX files.

My project is drawing old RR lines over old aerial photos(1930s) here in Iowa. With these drawings in a GPS unit and Delorme on a netbook with a GPS attached, we can drive right to the old RR line, stop and look for evidence. No guessing where the old RR line was located.

I created numerous logs of my travels in Delorme and can convert the logs to a shape file in the program I purchased. Then import into Autocad 2004 Map to the Iowa State Plane Coordinate System. The shape file is a 3D polyline in Autocad and fits over the aerials just fine. Even had a log of a return train trip from Albuquerque to Galesburg, Illinois (over 80,000 points) that I brought into Autocad 2004 Map. It crosses a short segment of Iowa and fits on the aerial. Delorme logs record every second with the X, Y & Z.

So I am taking drawings from Autocad 2004 Map to Delorme and logs from Delorme to Autocad 2004 Map. I would assume that Microsoft Streets and Trips would be similar to Delorme. The program I purchased can import the MS Streets and Trips *.EST files.

Not exactly what you wanted to do, but there is a workaround. You will need Autocad Map to deal with coordinate systems.

atlast
Iowa
Message 11 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Ralph6410

Here is a screenshot of using a cell phone to gps with.
On an airline flight back from San Rafael, CA to Nashville, TN I set my
Samsung Jack cell phone to record the gps tracking on the Las Vegas to
Nashville leg. This was back in Nov 2009. As Celast states you can use any
GPS unit the trouble is getting the points out of the gps unit into a format
that map can use.


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Murph
http://map3d.wordpress.com/
Message 12 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Ralph6410

Correction to the above, I used my Garmin GPS unit for that line/point data.
But I have used the cell phone GPS apps for shorter route tracking.

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Murph
http://map3d.wordpress.com/
Message 13 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Ralph6410

Murph

I am attaching a GPX file of the all the mainline railroads built in the county I live in. Not too many left. I drew the rail lines over old and new aerials in NAD 83 Iowa State Plane South Coordinate System and saved as a DXF and imported to the program I purchased to do this, then converted to GPX and placed on my Garmin. One of the first things I learned after doing that is GPS units don't understand curves, just chords.

I tried to attach my Amtrak trip to an early post, but the file size was too large. The file is about 3 meg. Do you know what the limit is for attaching files?

atlast
Iowa
Message 14 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Ralph6410

Don't know for sure on the file size for this group but there is a customers
file group that allows bigger file sizes.
What program are you using to get the dxf to gpx?

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Murph
http://map3d.wordpress.com/


"Celast" wrote in message news:6366755@discussion.autodesk.com...
Murph

I am attaching a GPX file of the all the mainline railroads built in the
county I live in. Not too many left. I drew the rail lines over old and
new aerials in NAD 83 Iowa State Plane South Coordinate System and saved as
a DXF and imported to the program I purchased to do this, then converted to
GPX and placed on my Garmin. One of the first things I learned after doing
that is GPS units don't understand curves, just chords.

I tried to attach my Amtrak trip to an early post, but the file size was too
large. The file is about 3 meg. Do you know what the limit is for
attaching files?

atlast
Iowa
Message 15 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Ralph6410

Murph

I utilize a program named ExpertGPS Pro. Below is a link to their home page. It has a lot more power than I utilize at this time, but I always like to learn new things. Will try to find out the file size limits. Thanks


http://www.expertgps.com/

atlast
Iowa
Message 16 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Ralph6410

Keep an eye on my blog if you can. I was working on a GPX import tool and
may need some good GPX files to test it on. When I get it I'll post asking
for some files to try it on. Give me few weeks or so as I'm doing it on my
time and right now with the new 2011 version out work is keeping busy.


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Murph
http://map3d.wordpress.com/


"Celast" wrote in message news:6366758@discussion.autodesk.com...
Murph

I utilize a program named ExpertGPS Pro. Below is a link to their home
page. It has a lot more power than I utilize at this time, but I always
like to learn new things. Will try to find out the file size limits.
Thanks


http://www.expertgps.com/

atlast
Iowa
Message 17 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Ralph6410

On 4/4/2010 9:40 PM, Murph wrote:

> Keep an eye on my blog if you can. I was working on a GPX import tool
> and may need some good GPX files to test it on.

Here is a couple http://www.topografix.com/gpx_sample_files.asp, the
last link doesn't work. If you find any good ones let me know so I can
test them myself. 😉

Terry
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Never start any job without the right tools!
AutoCAD Add-on Tools at http://www.dotsoft.com
Message 18 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Ralph6410

Attached is an updated GPX file for the rail lines. On my GPS unit, I did not require labels on the GPX file to transfer to my Garmin. However a friend of mine had a newer Garmin and found that I needed to label each track. So this file has 14 tracks with labels. Found that without labels, it would overwrite each track and only wind up with one track on the GPS unit.

I did read that the limit for attaching files is 1.5 MB.

I find your task very interesting and have many more GPX files available. Will keep checking back here and on your Blog for information.

atlast
Iowa
Message 19 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Ralph6410

Got Topografix as a bookmark already. 🙂

I'll pass on what I get from the geocache site every week if you want,
Terry.

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Murph
http://map3d.wordpress.com/


"Terry W. Dotson" wrote in message
news:6366904@discussion.autodesk.com...
On 4/4/2010 9:40 PM, Murph wrote:

> Keep an eye on my blog if you can. I was working on a GPX import tool
> and may need some good GPX files to test it on.

Here is a couple http://www.topografix.com/gpx_sample_files.asp, the
last link doesn't work. If you find any good ones let me know so I can
test them myself. 😉

Terry
--
Never start any job without the right tools!
AutoCAD Add-on Tools at http://www.dotsoft.com

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