AutoCAD Map 3D General Discussion

AutoCAD Map 3D General Discussion

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Slow Queries with AutoCAD Map3d 2013

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10-10-2012 06:58 AM

Since upgrading to Map3d 2013 querying from attached drawings takes about twice as long. The Map options seem to be unchanged. Can anyone else confirm this?

 

Thanks,

 

-Jamie

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Re: Slow Queries with AutoCAD Map3d 2013

11-20-2012 11:26 AM in reply to: scradams

I can confirm an increased slow down due to memory and system requirements. Autocad Map 2013 has surpassed my computer system. Time for an upgrade.. Map 2012 is OK no problem.

 

John

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Re: Slow Queries with AutoCAD Map3d 2013

11-20-2012 12:08 PM in reply to: JohnPM

What I'm talking about is not related to memory or system requirements. You can attach a relatively small drawing set and do a Location->ALL query, or any query type for that matter. 2013 will take about twice as long to produce the results than 2012 with almost identical memory usage. I sent this issue (CaseNo:07630220) over to product support and development confirmed it, yet they will not offer a time frame for when it will be resolved. Very frustrating.

 

-Jamie

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Re: Slow Queries with AutoCAD Map3d 2013

11-20-2012 12:11 PM in reply to: scradams

Hi,

 

were the source drawings saved in 2013 or in an older dwg-format?

IMHO the problem also was know when we changed to Map3D 2010, when quering drawings in the current 2010-format everything was fine, but 2007-DWGs were slow.

 

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Re: Slow Queries with AutoCAD Map3d 2013

11-20-2012 12:22 PM in reply to: Alfred.NESWADBA

It dosen't seem to matter. I thought that might make a difference also, but I tried saving that same set of drawings in 2013 format before the query and it had to effect. 2010,2011,2012 all have same query times, 2013 is where the increase is. Naturally the larger the drawing set, the more noticable it is.

 

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Re: Slow Queries with AutoCAD Map3d 2013

11-20-2012 12:53 PM in reply to: scradams

Hi,

 

>> 2010,2011,2012 all have same query times, 2013 is where the increase is

Yes, because all these versions (2010,2011,2012) use the same drawing-format. But 2013 has a new one.

 

>> I tried saving that same set of drawings in 2013 format before the query and it had to effect

Ok, what amount of data do you have and how are they structured (small but many drawings or large but few ones) plus an additional question: are these drawings created by vertical apps like Civil3D?

 

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Re: Slow Queries with AutoCAD Map3d 2013

11-20-2012 02:01 PM in reply to: Alfred.NESWADBA

There are 7 source drawings adding up to 6mb. Yes they were created using AutoCAD MAP3D 2012.

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Re: Slow Queries with AutoCAD Map3d 2013

11-20-2012 11:45 PM in reply to: scradams

Hi,

 

ok, I have tried it now and can reproduce the issue, I compared

Civil3D2012x64 ... 27sec

Civil3D2013x64 ... 44sec (not depending on DWG format, tried DWG2010 and DWG2013 for the queried dwgs)

 

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Re: Slow Queries with AutoCAD Map3d 2013

11-21-2012 05:50 AM in reply to: Alfred.NESWADBA

Ok good, so that makes you, me and AutoCAD Map development. Isn't this going to affect you?

 

As a developer of an AutoCAD Map application (StellarMAP) there is no work around I can apply to this. This will have a big negative impact on our users. I guess we will see if it's fixed in the next version.

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Re: Slow Queries with AutoCAD Map3d 2013

11-21-2012 06:52 AM in reply to: scradams

Hi,

 

>> As a developer of an AutoCAD Map application (StellarMAP) there is no work around I can apply to this.

We have for "simple queries" an own application that does import geometry from external drawings into the current one. So if you don't need the map-query-specials (like back-save, geometry-reprojection, geometry-modifications like block-exchange/hatch-creation/...) it's as developer not as difficult to write your own query-application.

 

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