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Anonymous
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New to Map

Hi all,

I am new to Map and I have a bunch of questions perhaps some kind soul(s)
can answer for me....

1. What is the main difference between MAP and ArcView 3.2a? Can they both
do similar things? Is one better than the other one? Is there a comparison
of features for both?
2. What is a good book to get in order to learn the ins and outs of Map?

I have Map and ArcView 3.2a (Map is included in LDD3, which I'm using). The
engineers are high on ArcView, but 3.2a is VERY clumsy to use. I'm trying to
do some watershed analysis with quad maps and entering various stream
reaches into the drawing and in a database (which ArcView uses an older
Access version, I believe). I think that I can do the same via Map and
eliminate ArcView? Money is tight (since we shelled out the megabucks for
LDD, so updating ArcView is out of the question.

Any experienced people out there that can help me, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks,

Rick
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Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Before I give you my thoughts on the differences between AV and Map, please
tell us if you have 3D-Analyst or Spatial Analyst for AV. It is important
to understand your need for 3-D visualization tools.

And I find it a bit of a surprise that your engineers prefer AV over
Map/LDD. What CAD product do they use?

Also in your reply tell us what enterprise database, if any, is used by your
company or which one is being considered.

As far as a book is concerned, consider "Inside AutoCAD Map 2000" by Dylan
Vance, Ray Eisenberg and David Walsh.

David N.


"Rick Graham" wrote in message
news:CF38109C1A005AA2E9A2A23359DC845A@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Hi all,
>
> I am new to Map and I have a bunch of questions perhaps some kind soul(s)
> can answer for me....
>
> 1. What is the main difference between MAP and ArcView 3.2a? Can they both
> do similar things? Is one better than the other one? Is there a comparison
> of features for both?
> 2. What is a good book to get in order to learn the ins and outs of Map?
>
> I have Map and ArcView 3.2a (Map is included in LDD3, which I'm using).
The
> engineers are high on ArcView, but 3.2a is VERY clumsy to use. I'm trying
to
> do some watershed analysis with quad maps and entering various stream
> reaches into the drawing and in a database (which ArcView uses an older
> Access version, I believe). I think that I can do the same via Map and
> eliminate ArcView? Money is tight (since we shelled out the megabucks for
> LDD, so updating ArcView is out of the question.
>
> Any experienced people out there that can help me, I'd appreciate it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rick
>
>
Message 3 of 4
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

David,

We do not have either of those add-ins. Basically, the engineers use AV for
Watershed Assessment mapping. We take a topo map and overlay our acutal
surveyed streams in with different reaches (stretches of the stream that
have differing criteria). This gets inputted into the AV database. Another
person takes the actual survey sheets and inputs that into Access.

We also have many .shps (township boundaries, parcels, couny lines, etc.)
in AV that we use to make presentation drawings. There isn't much analysis
used (as far as I can see).

I did try to take a topo map an import it into Map, but it didn't import at
the right projection. I will pick up that book you mentioned. I assume that
it will apply to Map 5 also?

That is our main use for AV... so if you can tell me that Map can do this
and more, I will be a happy person.

Thanks,

Rick
"David Nealey" wrote in message
news:4AB43959E0D3EAC77459D79E0FC310CE@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Before I give you my thoughts on the differences between AV and Map,
please
> tell us if you have 3D-Analyst or Spatial Analyst for AV. It is important
> to understand your need for 3-D visualization tools.
>
> And I find it a bit of a surprise that your engineers prefer AV over
> Map/LDD. What CAD product do they use?
>
> Also in your reply tell us what enterprise database, if any, is used by
your
> company or which one is being considered.
>
> As far as a book is concerned, consider "Inside AutoCAD Map 2000" by Dylan
> Vance, Ray Eisenberg and David Walsh.
>
> David N.
>
>
> "Rick Graham" wrote in message
> news:CF38109C1A005AA2E9A2A23359DC845A@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I am new to Map and I have a bunch of questions perhaps some kind
soul(s)
> > can answer for me....
> >
> > 1. What is the main difference between MAP and ArcView 3.2a? Can they
both
> > do similar things? Is one better than the other one? Is there a
comparison
> > of features for both?
> > 2. What is a good book to get in order to learn the ins and outs of Map?
> >
> > I have Map and ArcView 3.2a (Map is included in LDD3, which I'm using).
> The
> > engineers are high on ArcView, but 3.2a is VERY clumsy to use. I'm
trying
> to
> > do some watershed analysis with quad maps and entering various stream
> > reaches into the drawing and in a database (which ArcView uses an older
> > Access version, I believe). I think that I can do the same via Map and
> > eliminate ArcView? Money is tight (since we shelled out the megabucks
for
> > LDD, so updating ArcView is out of the question.
> >
> > Any experienced people out there that can help me, I'd appreciate it.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Rick
> >
> >
>
>
Message 4 of 4
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Rick,

You might want to also get the AutoDesk official training courseware. It
has two chapters on topologies and examples with water lines (you can
highlight sections of pipe based upon resistance, parcels based upon buffers
and also flood trace analysis). This may be of interest to you, especially
if you could treat a waterline pipe as the centerline of a creek to get
similar results. It has it's limits (even with LDD) and when it comes to
hydrology, Civil Engineers may be found wanting in some areas. You might
want to look at "Surfer" from Golden Software for $600 that does some pretty
cool things if LDD/Map doesn't do it.

David


"Rick Graham" wrote in message
news:8DECD98F362D3DBDB2ADF3C61EC31AB2@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> David,
>
> We do not have either of those add-ins. Basically, the engineers use AV
for
> Watershed Assessment mapping. We take a topo map and overlay our acutal
> surveyed streams in with different reaches (stretches of the stream that
> have differing criteria). This gets inputted into the AV database. Another
> person takes the actual survey sheets and inputs that into Access.
>
> We also have many .shps (township boundaries, parcels, couny lines, etc.)
> in AV that we use to make presentation drawings. There isn't much analysis
> used (as far as I can see).
>
> I did try to take a topo map an import it into Map, but it didn't import
at
> the right projection. I will pick up that book you mentioned. I assume
that
> it will apply to Map 5 also?
>
> That is our main use for AV... so if you can tell me that Map can do this
> and more, I will be a happy person.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rick
> "David Nealey" wrote in message
> news:4AB43959E0D3EAC77459D79E0FC310CE@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Before I give you my thoughts on the differences between AV and Map,
> please
> > tell us if you have 3D-Analyst or Spatial Analyst for AV. It is
important
> > to understand your need for 3-D visualization tools.
> >
> > And I find it a bit of a surprise that your engineers prefer AV over
> > Map/LDD. What CAD product do they use?
> >
> > Also in your reply tell us what enterprise database, if any, is used by
> your
> > company or which one is being considered.
> >
> > As far as a book is concerned, consider "Inside AutoCAD Map 2000" by
Dylan
> > Vance, Ray Eisenberg and David Walsh.
> >
> > David N.
> >
> >
> > "Rick Graham" wrote in message
> > news:CF38109C1A005AA2E9A2A23359DC845A@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I am new to Map and I have a bunch of questions perhaps some kind
> soul(s)
> > > can answer for me....
> > >
> > > 1. What is the main difference between MAP and ArcView 3.2a? Can they
> both
> > > do similar things? Is one better than the other one? Is there a
> comparison
> > > of features for both?
> > > 2. What is a good book to get in order to learn the ins and outs of
Map?
> > >
> > > I have Map and ArcView 3.2a (Map is included in LDD3, which I'm
using).
> > The
> > > engineers are high on ArcView, but 3.2a is VERY clumsy to use. I'm
> trying
> > to
> > > do some watershed analysis with quad maps and entering various stream
> > > reaches into the drawing and in a database (which ArcView uses an
older
> > > Access version, I believe). I think that I can do the same via Map and
> > > eliminate ArcView? Money is tight (since we shelled out the megabucks
> for
> > > LDD, so updating ArcView is out of the question.
> > >
> > > Any experienced people out there that can help me, I'd appreciate it.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Rick
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

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