Got it guys! TX a million for the help. Thanks to all for taking the hex off the dwg. My computer tried to open 3 times by using LT2004 and couldn't do it-then for some reason on the 4th attempt it (on its own) used our seat of LT2009 and it opened right up. I could have sworn I used both 04 & 09 in trying to open it before. Thanks again!