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*Ernst, Lyndon
Message 1 of 7 (1,083 Views)

Blocks not plotting

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12-30-1999 12:24 PM
I am using a non-color dependant plotstyle and no matter what plotstyle I
use I cannot get blocks to plot. Any ideas?
*Support, Autodesk
Message 2 of 7 (1,083 Views)

Re: Blocks not plotting

12-30-1999 10:28 PM in reply to: *Ernst, Lyndon
Are all of the blocks on on the same layer and is the layer set as
printable? Do the blocks show in a full preview? Are all of the block
insertions the same block or different ones?
--
Keith Sibbert
PSG Product Support, Americas
WW Support & Services, Autodesk
Discussion Q&A: http://www.autodesk.com/discussion

Lyndon Ernst wrote:

> I am using a non-color dependant plotstyle and no matter what plotstyle I
> use I cannot get blocks to plot. Any ideas?
*Ernst, Lyndon
Message 3 of 7 (1,083 Views)

Re:

01-03-2000 10:05 AM in reply to: *Ernst, Lyndon
There are several blocks are on different layers and the layers are
printable. Exploded blocks on the same layers print. The blocks do not
show in full preview, other items do not show either. I have yet to figure
that one out, not showing on the full preview does not bother me as much as
not printing.
Keith Sibbert (Autodesk Support) wrote in
message news:386C4D0B.B7934D3D@autodesk.com...
> Are all of the blocks on on the same layer and is the layer set as
> printable? Do the blocks show in a full preview? Are all of the block
> insertions the same block or different ones?
> --
> Keith Sibbert
> PSG Product Support, Americas
> WW Support & Services, Autodesk
> Discussion Q&A: http://www.autodesk.com/discussion
>
>
> Lyndon Ernst wrote:
>
> > I am using a non-color dependant plotstyle and no matter what plotstyle
I
> > use I cannot get blocks to plot. Any ideas?
>
>
>
>
*Hurley, Shaan
Message 4 of 7 (1,083 Views)

Re:

01-03-2000 10:09 AM in reply to: *Ernst, Lyndon
Lyndon,

What about without any plot style in use? Could you post the drawing to the
customer files discussion group or email it to me? My guess is the blocks
are on a non plotting layer or pens and when you explode the blocks they
then revert to a plotting layer. What driver/device?

Sincerely,

Shaan Hurley
Autodesk Beta Programs
http://betaprograms.autodesk.com

Lyndon Ernst wrote in message
news:84qod4$m0h16@adesknews2.autodesk.com...
> There are several blocks are on different layers and the layers are
> printable. Exploded blocks on the same layers print. The blocks do not
> show in full preview, other items do not show either. I have yet to
figure
> that one out, not showing on the full preview does not bother me as much
as
> not printing.
> Keith Sibbert (Autodesk Support) wrote
in
> message news:386C4D0B.B7934D3D@autodesk.com...
> > Are all of the blocks on on the same layer and is the layer set as
> > printable? Do the blocks show in a full preview? Are all of the block
> > insertions the same block or different ones?
> > --
> > Keith Sibbert
> > PSG Product Support, Americas
> > WW Support & Services, Autodesk
> > Discussion Q&A: http://www.autodesk.com/discussion
> >
> >
> > Lyndon Ernst wrote:
> >
> > > I am using a non-color dependant plotstyle and no matter what
plotstyle
> I
> > > use I cannot get blocks to plot. Any ideas?
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
*Hurley, Shaan
Message 5 of 7 (1,083 Views)

Re: Blocks not plotting

01-03-2000 12:15 PM in reply to: *Ernst, Lyndon
Lyndon,

Please only post file attachments to the customer files discussion group in
the future. There should be no difference in inserting blocks in AutoCAD LT
2000 and prior releases other than how you have your plot styles configured
and the lineweights. To confirm insert a block drawn on layer 0 (white and
continuous) and insert it in a new drawing on layer1 (yellow and dashed) and
it will take on the layer attributes of layer1 not layer 0 so it will
display yellow with a dashed linetype. Could you have accidentally inserted
the blocks on layer 0? I would also suggest in the future using color
dependant plot styles as that may be what else may be confusing you. You did
not include your PC3 file and STB plot styles so I am not sure what you have
going on there as well but again color dependant CTB would be the easiest
route unless you have a specific reason for named plot style mode.

Helpful links:
AutoCAD® LT Product Support main page:
http://www.autodesk.com/support/acadlt/index.htm

General AutoCAD® LT 2000 Tech. Solutions:
http://www.autodesk.com/support/acadlt/lt2000.htm

AutoCAD LT 2000 Support Assistance
http://www.autodesk.com/support/acadlt/asalt.htm

Sincerely,

Shaan Hurley
Autodesk Beta Programs
http://betaprograms.autodesk.com

Lyndon Ernst wrote in message
news:84qt10$m1b25@adesknews2.autodesk.com...
> You hit on the problem. In previous versions of AutoCad blocks were
created
> on layer 0 and when brought in as a block they took on the characteristics
> of the layer they were brought in on. Now apparently they still refer
back
> to their original layer and while taking on the color etc.. of the layer
> they are brought into they still use the original layer for plotting
> instructions.
> I just removed the no plot instruction from layer 0, which by the way is
the
> standard for LT2000, and the blocks plotted. They were created on layer 0
> and brought into layer A-Eqpm, or some other layer, they appear to be on
> that layer when you pick properties, but they plot according to layer 0
> plotting instructions.
> I am plotting to the latest Windows print driver for an HP Deskjet 1120C.
>
> Shaan Hurley wrote in message
> news:84qot1$m0g24@adesknews2.autodesk.com...
> > Lyndon,
> >
> > What about without any plot style in use? Could you post the drawing to
> the
> > customer files discussion group or email it to me? My guess is the
blocks
> > are on a non plotting layer or pens and when you explode the blocks they
> > then revert to a plotting layer. What driver/device?
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Shaan Hurley
> > Autodesk Beta Programs
> > http://betaprograms.autodesk.com
> >
> >
> > Lyndon Ernst wrote in message
> > news:84qod4$m0h16@adesknews2.autodesk.com...
> > > There are several blocks are on different layers and the layers are
> > > printable. Exploded blocks on the same layers print. The blocks do
not
> > > show in full preview, other items do not show either. I have yet to
> > figure
> > > that one out, not showing on the full preview does not bother me as
much
> > as
> > > not printing.
> > > Keith Sibbert (Autodesk Support)
wrote
> > in
> > > message news:386C4D0B.B7934D3D@autodesk.com...
> > > > Are all of the blocks on on the same layer and is the layer set as
> > > > printable? Do the blocks show in a full preview? Are all of the
block
> > > > insertions the same block or different ones?
> > > > --
> > > > Keith Sibbert
> > > > PSG Product Support, Americas
> > > > WW Support & Services, Autodesk
> > > > Discussion Q&A: http://www.autodesk.com/discussion
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Lyndon Ernst wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I am using a non-color dependant plotstyle and no matter what
> > plotstyle
> > > I
> > > > > use I cannot get blocks to plot. Any ideas?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
*Ernst, Lyndon
Message 6 of 7 (1,083 Views)

Re:

01-03-2000 02:33 PM in reply to: *Ernst, Lyndon
Isn't you responce sort of like saying please return to using LT98? I am
assuming that AutoCad is moving away from color dependant plotting, which I
agree with having used software that is not color dependant. I wish to use
the STB format because I see advantages to using this format and as I told
you in my previous note I have already done what you suggested with the
installation of blocks. Look at the file and you will see that is the case.
I am emailing you my STB file.
I look forward to a solution to my issue.
Shaan Hurley wrote in message
news:84r09e$m0j32@adesknews2.autodesk.com...
> Lyndon,
>
> Please only post file attachments to the customer files discussion group
in
> the future. There should be no difference in inserting blocks in AutoCAD
LT
> 2000 and prior releases other than how you have your plot styles
configured
> and the lineweights. To confirm insert a block drawn on layer 0 (white
and
> continuous) and insert it in a new drawing on layer1 (yellow and dashed)
and
> it will take on the layer attributes of layer1 not layer 0 so it will
> display yellow with a dashed linetype. Could you have accidentally
inserted
> the blocks on layer 0? I would also suggest in the future using color
> dependant plot styles as that may be what else may be confusing you. You
did
> not include your PC3 file and STB plot styles so I am not sure what you
have
> going on there as well but again color dependant CTB would be the easiest
> route unless you have a specific reason for named plot style mode.
>
>
> Helpful links:
> AutoCAD® LT Product Support main page:
> http://www.autodesk.com/support/acadlt/index.htm
>
> General AutoCAD® LT 2000 Tech. Solutions:
> http://www.autodesk.com/support/acadlt/lt2000.htm
>
> AutoCAD LT 2000 Support Assistance
> http://www.autodesk.com/support/acadlt/asalt.htm
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Shaan Hurley
> Autodesk Beta Programs
> http://betaprograms.autodesk.com
>
>
> Lyndon Ernst wrote in message
> news:84qt10$m1b25@adesknews2.autodesk.com...
> > You hit on the problem. In previous versions of AutoCad blocks were
> created
> > on layer 0 and when brought in as a block they took on the
characteristics
> > of the layer they were brought in on. Now apparently they still refer
> back
> > to their original layer and while taking on the color etc.. of the layer
> > they are brought into they still use the original layer for plotting
> > instructions.
> > I just removed the no plot instruction from layer 0, which by the way is
> the
> > standard for LT2000, and the blocks plotted. They were created on layer
0
> > and brought into layer A-Eqpm, or some other layer, they appear to be
on
> > that layer when you pick properties, but they plot according to layer 0
> > plotting instructions.
> > I am plotting to the latest Windows print driver for an HP Deskjet
1120C.
> >
> > Shaan Hurley wrote in message
> > news:84qot1$m0g24@adesknews2.autodesk.com...
> > > Lyndon,
> > >
> > > What about without any plot style in use? Could you post the drawing
to
> > the
> > > customer files discussion group or email it to me? My guess is the
> blocks
> > > are on a non plotting layer or pens and when you explode the blocks
they
> > > then revert to a plotting layer. What driver/device?
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > Shaan Hurley
> > > Autodesk Beta Programs
> > > http://betaprograms.autodesk.com
> > >
> > >
> > > Lyndon Ernst wrote in message
> > > news:84qod4$m0h16@adesknews2.autodesk.com...
> > > > There are several blocks are on different layers and the layers are
> > > > printable. Exploded blocks on the same layers print. The blocks do
> not
> > > > show in full preview, other items do not show either. I have yet to
> > > figure
> > > > that one out, not showing on the full preview does not bother me as
> much
> > > as
> > > > not printing.
> > > > Keith Sibbert (Autodesk Support)
> wrote
> > > in
> > > > message news:386C4D0B.B7934D3D@autodesk.com...
> > > > > Are all of the blocks on on the same layer and is the layer set as
> > > > > printable? Do the blocks show in a full preview? Are all of the
> block
> > > > > insertions the same block or different ones?
> > > > > --
> > > > > Keith Sibbert
> > > > > PSG Product Support, Americas
> > > > > WW Support & Services, Autodesk
> > > > > Discussion Q&A: http://www.autodesk.com/discussion
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Lyndon Ernst wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I am using a non-color dependant plotstyle and no matter what
> > > plotstyle
> > > > I
> > > > > > use I cannot get blocks to plot. Any ideas?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
*Hurley, Shaan
Message 7 of 7 (1,083 Views)

Re:

01-03-2000 03:20 PM in reply to: *Ernst, Lyndon
Lyndon,

No that is not what my response was intended to mean. All I was trying to do
is offer a plotting methodology that was more familiar as many have gotten
confused with Named Plot styles. If you feel comfortable with them by all
means stay with them but they can be confusing at times even to me. Also
since you are emailing and posting hitting me from both sides I will reply
to your email here as well, but please in the future keep the replies and
correspondence with me in one place. Sorry but without more detailed steps
to reproduce this problem I cannot commit anymore of my time.

I am unable to reproduce your problem of inserting blocks drawn on layer 0
not taking on the properties of the inserted layer with your drawing and
plot style. As a suggestion on your drawing to get a WYSIWYG (What You See
Is What You Get) on your Layout right-click on the Layout tab then select
Page Setup. Now in the Pagesetup dialog select the Plot Device Tab and then
check the option to "display plot styles" then choose OK. Now your Layout
will be a WYSIWYG view.

Sincerely,

Shaan Hurley (not Product Support)
Autodesk Beta Programs
http://betaprograms.autodesk.com

Lyndon Ernst wrote in message
news:84r84q$nsc7@adesknews2.autodesk.com...
> Isn't you responce sort of like saying please return to using LT98? I am
> assuming that AutoCad is moving away from color dependant plotting, which
I
> agree with having used software that is not color dependant. I wish to
use
> the STB format because I see advantages to using this format and as I told
> you in my previous note I have already done what you suggested with the
> installation of blocks. Look at the file and you will see that is the
case.
> I am emailing you my STB file.
> I look forward to a solution to my issue.
> Shaan Hurley wrote in message
> news:84r09e$m0j32@adesknews2.autodesk.com...
> > Lyndon,
> >
> > Please only post file attachments to the customer files discussion group

> in
> > the future. There should be no difference in inserting blocks in AutoCAD
> LT
> > 2000 and prior releases other than how you have your plot styles
> configured
> > and the lineweights. To confirm insert a block drawn on layer 0 (white
> and
> > continuous) and insert it in a new drawing on layer1 (yellow and dashed)
> and
> > it will take on the layer attributes of layer1 not layer 0 so it will
> > display yellow with a dashed linetype. Could you have accidentally
> inserted
> > the blocks on layer 0? I would also suggest in the future using color
> > dependant plot styles as that may be what else may be confusing you. You
> did
> > not include your PC3 file and STB plot styles so I am not sure what you
> have
> > going on there as well but again color dependant CTB would be the
easiest
> > route unless you have a specific reason for named plot style mode.
> >
> >
> > Helpful links:
> > AutoCAD® LT Product Support main page:
> > http://www.autodesk.com/support/acadlt/index.htm
> >
> > General AutoCAD® LT 2000 Tech. Solutions:
> > http://www.autodesk.com/support/acadlt/lt2000.htm
> >
> > AutoCAD LT 2000 Support Assistance
> > http://www.autodesk.com/support/acadlt/asalt.htm
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Shaan Hurley
> > Autodesk Beta Programs
> > http://betaprograms.autodesk.com
> >
> >
> > Lyndon Ernst wrote in message
> > news:84qt10$m1b25@adesknews2.autodesk.com...
> > > You hit on the problem. In previous versions of AutoCad blocks were
> > created
> > > on layer 0 and when brought in as a block they took on the
> characteristics
> > > of the layer they were brought in on. Now apparently they still refer
> > back
> > > to their original layer and while taking on the color etc.. of the
layer
> > > they are brought into they still use the original layer for plotting
> > > instructions.
> > > I just removed the no plot instruction from layer 0, which by the way
is
> > the
> > > standard for LT2000, and the blocks plotted. They were created on
layer
> 0
> > > and brought into layer A-Eqpm, or some other layer, they appear to be
> on
> > > that layer when you pick properties, but they plot according to layer
0
> > > plotting instructions.
> > > I am plotting to the latest Windows print driver for an HP Deskjet
> 1120C.
> > >
> > > Shaan Hurley wrote in message
> > > news:84qot1$m0g24@adesknews2.autodesk.com...
> > > > Lyndon,
> > > >
> > > > What about without any plot style in use? Could you post the drawing
> to
> > > the
> > > > customer files discussion group or email it to me? My guess is the
> > blocks
> > > > are on a non plotting layer or pens and when you explode the blocks
> they
> > > > then revert to a plotting layer. What driver/device?
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely,
> > > >
> > > > Shaan Hurley
> > > > Autodesk Beta Programs
> > > > http://betaprograms.autodesk.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Lyndon Ernst wrote in message
> > > > news:84qod4$m0h16@adesknews2.autodesk.com...
> > > > > There are several blocks are on different layers and the layers
are
> > > > > printable. Exploded blocks on the same layers print. The blocks
do
> > not
> > > > > show in full preview, other items do not show either. I have yet
to
> > > > figure
> > > > > that one out, not showing on the full preview does not bother me
as
> > much
> > > > as
> > > > > not printing.
> > > > > Keith Sibbert (Autodesk Support)
> > wrote
> > > > in
> > > > > message news:386C4D0B.B7934D3D@autodesk.com...
> > > > > > Are all of the blocks on on the same layer and is the layer set
as
> > > > > > printable? Do the blocks show in a full preview? Are all of the
> > block
> > > > > > insertions the same block or different ones?
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Keith Sibbert
> > > > > > PSG Product Support, Americas
> > > > > > WW Support & Services, Autodesk
> > > > > > Discussion Q&A: http://www.autodesk.com/discussion
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lyndon Ernst wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am using a non-color dependant plotstyle and no matter what
> > > > plotstyle
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > use I cannot get blocks to plot. Any ideas?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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