Symbol Manager

[Anonymous]

Need help in creating a new symbol manager file. i seem to be missing a step somewhere along the line. i cannot get it to pick up the symbol file that i created with all my symbols that i will be using.

please help
thanks

[Anonymous]

mandrade54, Tell us what you did so far.

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Joe

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E.
Civil 3D 2006
LDT 2006
Win XP pro
v 2002, sp 2
hp workstation xw4100
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Need help in creating a new symbol manager file. i seem to be missing a
step somewhere along the line. i cannot get it to pick up the symbol file
that i created with all my symbols that i will be using.

please help
thanks

[Anonymous]

i guess i need to know how to start a new one, because i think i am not starting the process correctly. i make a new folder in the symbol manager folder with all the symbols i am going to be needing. then i go to the symbol manager to try to create a new symbol set. that's where i get lost. i've tried several different things and can't get it to work. maybe if you could let me know how to do it from the start.

thanks

[Anonymous]

[img src="@162755"]

1. AT SYM MANAGER PRESS MANAGE

2.SYMBOL SET:

       
        existing: give your SS a name

       
        Key: give a corresponding KEY
name

       
        Description: Ditto

File: give a unique file name
<name>.dbf 

check import symbols

3. Press Add  Key

[img src="@162756"]

       
    give a name ( hint : use the names from 2)

       
    Value: enter path to symbols ( make sure it is exactly
correct)

4. Pattern if you want to filter files here is you
chance

        set defaults
( insert layer, scales, lisp routines ....)

       
set Cat..palett..( here you can organize by drag and drop...

5. see 4.

6. check create slides ( my screen shot shows new
only but all would be good)

7. slide library ( if you need one here is your
chance)

8. press OK.    each file will be
opened so be on hand for this step; you get to accept the file name for the
symbol name or edit on command line.

Wheew! That will do it.

Foot note: if you are sharing as I suspect ... Set
the dbf file to a network location That will take some tinkering...  once
you get your share business squared away the easiest way to get all your users
to see them is to copy YOUR SDSK.dfm file to all THERE machines. ( please make
back up copies first)

Good Luck

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Joe

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E.
Civil 3D 2006
LDT
2006
Win XP pro
v 2002, sp 2
hp workstation
xw4100
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memory of the King of Work-arounds
"The only Constant is
Change".

"The only thing worse than training your staff, and
having them leave is -
not training your staff, and having them stay."
:-o
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i guess i need to know how to
start a new one, because i think i am not starting the process correctly. 
i make a new folder in the symbol manager folder with all the symbols i am going
to be needing.  then i go to the symbol manager to try to create a new
symbol set.  that's where i get lost.  i've tried several different
things and can't get it to work.  maybe if you could let me know how to do
it from the start.

thanks

[Anonymous]

For what it's worth... I had all our company standard blocks in symbol manager. I switched to using palettes and have found them much easier to create & maintain. Users seem to like them better, they not only create layers but bring things like linetypes, colors & other layer settings in with them. And since they are plain old AutoCAD they will work with Map & Civil 3D. The scale bar was the only thing that people still wanted from SM so I created a dynamic block out of it to handle different scales rather than the lsp/attribute method that symbol manager uses.

[Anonymous]

Ditto drw^3

Say, You think you can share that dyno scale bar? If I may be so bold.

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Joe

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E.
Civil 3D 2006
LDT 2006
Win XP pro
v 2002, sp 2
hp workstation xw4100
*****************************************************************************************
In memory of the King of Work-arounds
"The only Constant is Change".

"The only thing worse than training your staff, and having them leave is -
not training your staff, and having them stay." 😮
A reminder taken from Graphics Solution Providers' Calendar page
*****************************************************************************************
wrote in message news:5680609@discussion.autodesk.com...
For what it's worth... I had all our company standard blocks in symbol
manager. I switched to using palettes and have found them much easier to
create & maintain. Users seem to like them better, they not only create
layers but bring things like linetypes, colors & other layer settings in
with them. And since they are plain old AutoCAD they will work with Map &
Civil 3D. The scale bar was the only thing that people still wanted from SM
so I created a dynamic block out of it to handle different scales rather
than the lsp/attribute method that symbol manager uses.

[Anonymous]

P.S

How are you jandling palette updates? I have not mastered that with out
having users pull in a new xtp file

--
Joe

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E.
Civil 3D 2006
LDT 2006
Win XP pro
v 2002, sp 2
hp workstation xw4100
*****************************************************************************************
In memory of the King of Work-arounds
"The only Constant is Change".

"The only thing worse than training your staff, and having them leave is -
not training your staff, and having them stay." 😮
A reminder taken from Graphics Solution Providers' Calendar page
*****************************************************************************************
wrote in message news:5680609@discussion.autodesk.com...
For what it's worth... I had all our company standard blocks in symbol
manager. I switched to using palettes and have found them much easier to
create & maintain. Users seem to like them better, they not only create
layers but bring things like linetypes, colors & other layer settings in
with them. And since they are plain old AutoCAD they will work with Map &
Civil 3D. The scale bar was the only thing that people still wanted from SM
so I created a dynamic block out of it to handle different scales rather
than the lsp/attribute method that symbol manager uses.

[Anonymous]

I have the tool palette path in Options set to a network location & then make that location read only. If you to create sub-groups of palettes or a place where users can create their own stuff, use the *_TOOLPALETTEPATH command to make macros on a toolbar and they can click buttons to reset the path & load different xtp files.

[Anonymous]

Thats what I do, but I'm finding it difficult to - lets say I have palette
A, B & C and I add content to each - the other WS are not picking that up
unless I export then import on each WS! Wher have I gon wrong?


Thanks

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Joe

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E.
Civil 3D 2006
LDT 2006
Win XP pro
v 2002, sp 2
hp workstation xw4100
*****************************************************************************************
In memory of the King of Work-arounds
"The only Constant is Change".

"The only thing worse than training your staff, and having them leave is -
not training your staff, and having them stay." 😮
A reminder taken from Graphics Solution Providers' Calendar page
*****************************************************************************************
wrote in message news:5680701@discussion.autodesk.com...
I have the tool palette path in Options set to a network location & then
make that location read only. If you to create sub-groups of palettes or a
place where users can create their own stuff, use the *_TOOLPALETTEPATH
command to make macros on a toolbar and they can click buttons to reset the
path & load different xtp files.

[Anonymous]

I have all palettes xtp & AcTpCatalog.atc on the network. I might be missing something here but I think the key is managing the security on the network directory so that you are the only one who has write access. I think if you don't, you can make changes, but if someone else has AutoCAD open when you make the changes, they have the old definitions in memory and when they close it overwrites your changes.

But if you are importing the palettes, I would think they would be local at that point.

[Anonymous]

I would prefer they way you describe - lock all users out and be the sole
propriter of the TP manipulation ( or at least the director)

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Joe

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E.
Civil 3D 2006
LDT 2006
Win XP pro
v 2002, sp 2
hp workstation xw4100
*****************************************************************************************
In memory of the King of Work-arounds
"The only Constant is Change".

"The only thing worse than training your staff, and having them leave is -
not training your staff, and having them stay." 😮
A reminder taken from Graphics Solution Providers' Calendar page
*****************************************************************************************
wrote in message news:5681081@discussion.autodesk.com...
I have all palettes xtp & AcTpCatalog.atc on the network. I might be missing
something here but I think the key is managing the security on the network
directory so that you are the only one who has write access. I think if you
don't, you can make changes, but if someone else has AutoCAD open when you
make the changes, they have the old definitions in memory and when they
close it overwrites your changes.

But if you are importing the palettes, I would think they would be local at
that point.

[Anonymous]

Yes, I'm still learning their quirks but I have found if you don't lock them down once they are networked, they get all mucked up, inadvertantly just because of the way the software works.

[Anonymous]

Hi,

I'm not disagreeing with your methods, just never made time to do it myself,
but the wording implied that Symbol Manager can't create layers, bring in
linetypes etc.

"they not only create layers but bring things like linetypes, colors & other
layer settings in with them"

You can do this with Symbol Manager and anything else you like. It's only a
matter of setting it up.

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Laurie Comerford
CADApps
www.cadapps.com.au
www.civil3Dtools.com
wrote in message news:5680609@discussion.autodesk.com...
For what it's worth... I had all our company standard blocks in symbol
manager. I switched to using palettes and have found them much easier to
create & maintain. Users seem to like them better, they not only create
layers but bring things like linetypes, colors & other layer settings in
with them. And since they are plain old AutoCAD they will work with Map &
Civil 3D. The scale bar was the only thing that people still wanted from SM
so I created a dynamic block out of it to handle different scales rather
than the lsp/attribute method that symbol manager uses.

[Anonymous]

Hi Laurie, Thanks for the reminder

--
Joe

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E.
Civil 3D 2006
LDT 2006
Win XP pro
v 2002, sp 2
hp workstation xw4100
*****************************************************************************************
In memory of the King of Work-arounds
"The only Constant is Change".

"The only thing worse than training your staff, and having them leave is -
not training your staff, and having them stay." 😮
A reminder taken from Graphics Solution Providers' Calendar page
*****************************************************************************************
"Laurie Comerford" wrote in message
news:5681442@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hi,

I'm not disagreeing with your methods, just never made time to do it myself,
but the wording implied that Symbol Manager can't create layers, bring in
linetypes etc.

"they not only create layers but bring things like linetypes, colors & other
layer settings in with them"

You can do this with Symbol Manager and anything else you like. It's only a
matter of setting it up.

--

Laurie Comerford
CADApps
www.cadapps.com.au
www.civil3Dtools.com
wrote in message news:5680609@discussion.autodesk.com...
For what it's worth... I had all our company standard blocks in symbol
manager. I switched to using palettes and have found them much easier to
create & maintain. Users seem to like them better, they not only create
layers but bring things like linetypes, colors & other layer settings in
with them. And since they are plain old AutoCAD they will work with Map &
Civil 3D. The scale bar was the only thing that people still wanted from SM
so I created a dynamic block out of it to handle different scales rather
than the lsp/attribute method that symbol manager uses.

[Anonymous]

I just want to thank you for the graphic scale block. We are just moving to civil3d and it has been one of those little things that took forever to get simplified.

Thank you,
Tina