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*John Michalik
Message 1 of 9 (60 Views)

Layer filtering

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04-29-2005 12:33 PM
Ok, If I have xrefs, I don't always want to see those layers. So I go into
the layer manager, choose show all xref layers, and select 'invert filter'.
Poof, xref layers gone. great. Now, I choose the next option which is
'apply filter to layer toolbar. This should apply the same layer view to my
nifty little dropdown layer listing as well correct? It doesn't. Any ideas
on why??

--
John Michalik
Drafting and Design
LDD/CAD Development & Standards
johnm@weissereng.com
*Don Reichle
Message 2 of 9 (60 Views)

Re: Layer filtering

04-29-2005 12:41 PM in reply to: *John Michalik
Hey John;

We'll attempt to stay on topic this time. :-)

It worked as designed in 2002 - I just tried it successfully.

The version its malfunctioning in is...?

--
Don Reichle
"King Of Work-Arounds"
"The only thing worse
than training your staff,
and having them leave is -
not training your staff,
and having them stay."
Courtesy Graphics Solution Providers
--------------------------------------
LDT3/CD3
IntelP4-2.4
1GB RAM
Intel 64MB


"John Michalik" wrote in message
news:4830884@discussion.autodesk.com...
Ok, If I have xrefs, I don't always want to see those layers. So I go into
the layer manager, choose show all xref layers, and select 'invert filter'.
Poof, xref layers gone. great. Now, I choose the next option which is
'apply filter to layer toolbar. This should apply the same layer view to my
nifty little dropdown layer listing as well correct? It doesn't. Any ideas
on why??

--
John Michalik
Drafting and Design
LDD/CAD Development & Standards
johnm@weissereng.com
*John Michalik
Message 3 of 9 (60 Views)

Re: Layer filtering

04-29-2005 12:45 PM in reply to: *John Michalik
Worth a shot I guess!

2004, vanilla, and ldd. Not sure if I'm missing a variable or what. I
messed around with maxsort, not enough layers to matter anyway, but no
matter where I set it, it didn't change anything. I know I used to use it
in 2000 and it worked fine. What's that make, the third time today that you
got me on incomplete or incorrect data? :smileyhappy:

--
John Michalik
Drafting and Design
LDD/CAD Development & Standards
johnm@weissereng.com
"Don Reichle" wrote in message
news:4830893@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hey John;

We'll attempt to stay on topic this time. :-)

It worked as designed in 2002 - I just tried it successfully.

The version its malfunctioning in is...?

--
Don Reichle
"King Of Work-Arounds"
"The only thing worse
than training your staff,
and having them leave is -
not training your staff,
and having them stay."
Courtesy Graphics Solution Providers
--------------------------------------
LDT3/CD3
IntelP4-2.4
1GB RAM
Intel 64MB


"John Michalik" wrote in message
news:4830884@discussion.autodesk.com...
Ok, If I have xrefs, I don't always want to see those layers. So I go into
the layer manager, choose show all xref layers, and select 'invert filter'.
Poof, xref layers gone. great. Now, I choose the next option which is
'apply filter to layer toolbar. This should apply the same layer view to my
nifty little dropdown layer listing as well correct? It doesn't. Any ideas
on why??

--
John Michalik
Drafting and Design
LDD/CAD Development & Standards
johnm@weissereng.com
*Don Reichle
Message 4 of 9 (60 Views)

Re: Layer filtering

04-29-2005 01:09 PM in reply to: *John Michalik
I'm not counting.

But I attempted to get the "Where's the audio?" pool going during the Civil
3D webcast.

It's the number one query every week, especially early in the webcast.

I suggested to Dave last week that they increase the font height on the
Webcast site to oh, say 120. But all I could get in response was a smiley
face.

And at least I'm on record as intending to stay OT, this time. :-)

--
Don Reichle
"King Of Work-Arounds"
"The only thing worse
than training your staff,
and having them leave is -
not training your staff,
and having them stay."
Courtesy Graphics Solution Providers
--------------------------------------
LDT3/CD3
IntelP4-2.4
1GB RAM
Intel 64MB


"John Michalik" wrote in message
news:4830878@discussion.autodesk.com...
Worth a shot I guess!

2004, vanilla, and ldd. Not sure if I'm missing a variable or what. I
messed around with maxsort, not enough layers to matter anyway, but no
matter where I set it, it didn't change anything. I know I used to use it
in 2000 and it worked fine. What's that make, the third time today that you
got me on incomplete or incorrect data? :smileyhappy:

--
John Michalik
Drafting and Design
LDD/CAD Development & Standards
johnm@weissereng.com
"Don Reichle" wrote in message
news:4830893@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hey John;

We'll attempt to stay on topic this time. :-)

It worked as designed in 2002 - I just tried it successfully.

The version its malfunctioning in is...?

--
Don Reichle
"King Of Work-Arounds"
"The only thing worse
than training your staff,
and having them leave is -
not training your staff,
and having them stay."
Courtesy Graphics Solution Providers
--------------------------------------
LDT3/CD3
IntelP4-2.4
1GB RAM
Intel 64MB


"John Michalik" wrote in message
news:4830884@discussion.autodesk.com...
Ok, If I have xrefs, I don't always want to see those layers. So I go into
the layer manager, choose show all xref layers, and select 'invert filter'.
Poof, xref layers gone. great. Now, I choose the next option which is
'apply filter to layer toolbar. This should apply the same layer view to my
nifty little dropdown layer listing as well correct? It doesn't. Any ideas
on why??

--
John Michalik
Drafting and Design
LDD/CAD Development & Standards
johnm@weissereng.com
*John Michalik
Message 5 of 9 (60 Views)

Re: Layer filtering

04-29-2005 01:20 PM in reply to: *John Michalik
Hey, thanks Don! That solved it!! :smileyhappy: By the way, you fell off the topic
train again. Have a good one. Oh, and I couldn't find anything in help
either that gave any possible solutions to the filter mess. I guess I'll
just live with it for now. I've got a civil guy over here who is giving me
fits with it though. Wants to put an underscore in front of all his layer
names so they stay at the top. Wasn't sure exactly where to start with that
one. I explained the rules and procedures, didn't work. Talked to his
supervisor, can't say he didn't care, but he doesn't understand the scope of
the problem, so very little help there either. He did say something to the
guy, but again no go. I went into his current project and renamed all the
layers appropriately. Boy THAT got a response. After he was through
venting, I told him to take it to the owner. If the owner sided with him I
would fix it back. Never heard another word. Thankfully, I'm Project
Manager on any arch. projects around here (under the owner) which includes
the info sent from Civil and any other discipline for those projects. I
just send the file on back. It's the regular Civil projects that aren't
part of any of our Arch work that are the problem. I've got standards
management and management on my side, but that doesn't always seem to carry
the game. Gotta come up with better reasoning than 'that dog don't hunt',
management doesn't think it's very P.C. Of course, saying that 'the company
who pays you said to do it that way' isn't getting it either.

--
John Michalik
Drafting and Design
LDD/CAD Development & Standards
johnm@weissereng.com
"Don Reichle" wrote in message
news:4830937@discussion.autodesk.com...
I'm not counting.

But I attempted to get the "Where's the audio?" pool going during the Civil
3D webcast.

It's the number one query every week, especially early in the webcast.

I suggested to Dave last week that they increase the font height on the
Webcast site to oh, say 120. But all I could get in response was a smiley
face.

And at least I'm on record as intending to stay OT, this time. :-)

--
Don Reichle
"King Of Work-Arounds"
"The only thing worse
than training your staff,
and having them leave is -
not training your staff,
and having them stay."
Courtesy Graphics Solution Providers
--------------------------------------
LDT3/CD3
IntelP4-2.4
1GB RAM
Intel 64MB


"John Michalik" wrote in message
news:4830878@discussion.autodesk.com...
Worth a shot I guess!

2004, vanilla, and ldd. Not sure if I'm missing a variable or what. I
messed around with maxsort, not enough layers to matter anyway, but no
matter where I set it, it didn't change anything. I know I used to use it
in 2000 and it worked fine. What's that make, the third time today that you
got me on incomplete or incorrect data? :smileyhappy:

--
John Michalik
Drafting and Design
LDD/CAD Development & Standards
johnm@weissereng.com
"Don Reichle" wrote in message
news:4830893@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hey John;

We'll attempt to stay on topic this time. :-)

It worked as designed in 2002 - I just tried it successfully.

The version its malfunctioning in is...?

--
Don Reichle
"King Of Work-Arounds"
"The only thing worse
than training your staff,
and having them leave is -
not training your staff,
and having them stay."
Courtesy Graphics Solution Providers
--------------------------------------
LDT3/CD3
IntelP4-2.4
1GB RAM
Intel 64MB


"John Michalik" wrote in message
news:4830884@discussion.autodesk.com...
Ok, If I have xrefs, I don't always want to see those layers. So I go into
the layer manager, choose show all xref layers, and select 'invert filter'.
Poof, xref layers gone. great. Now, I choose the next option which is
'apply filter to layer toolbar. This should apply the same layer view to my
nifty little dropdown layer listing as well correct? It doesn't. Any ideas
on why??

--
John Michalik
Drafting and Design
LDD/CAD Development & Standards
johnm@weissereng.com
*Don Reichle
Message 6 of 9 (60 Views)

Re: Layer filtering

04-29-2005 01:24 PM in reply to: *John Michalik
You have my permission to use the portion of my signature that applies the
best to your situation, and show it to the folks with the most control over
who stays, and who leaves.

--
Don Reichle
"King Of Work-Arounds"
"The only thing worse
than training your staff,
and having them leave is -
not training your staff,
and having them stay."
Courtesy Graphics Solution Providers
--------------------------------------
LDT3/CD3
IntelP4-2.4
1GB RAM
Intel 64MB


"John Michalik" wrote in message
news:4830977@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hey, thanks Don! That solved it!! :smileyhappy: By the way, you fell off the topic
train again. Have a good one. Oh, and I couldn't find anything in help
either that gave any possible solutions to the filter mess. I guess I'll
just live with it for now. I've got a civil guy over here who is giving me
fits with it though. Wants to put an underscore in front of all his layer
names so they stay at the top. Wasn't sure exactly where to start with that
one. I explained the rules and procedures, didn't work. Talked to his
supervisor, can't say he didn't care, but he doesn't understand the scope of
the problem, so very little help there either. He did say something to the
guy, but again no go. I went into his current project and renamed all the
layers appropriately. Boy THAT got a response. After he was through
venting, I told him to take it to the owner. If the owner sided with him I
would fix it back. Never heard another word. Thankfully, I'm Project
Manager on any arch. projects around here (under the owner) which includes
the info sent from Civil and any other discipline for those projects. I
just send the file on back. It's the regular Civil projects that aren't
part of any of our Arch work that are the problem. I've got standards
management and management on my side, but that doesn't always seem to carry
the game. Gotta come up with better reasoning than 'that dog don't hunt',
management doesn't think it's very P.C. Of course, saying that 'the company
who pays you said to do it that way' isn't getting it either.

--
John Michalik
Drafting and Design
LDD/CAD Development & Standards
johnm@weissereng.com
"Don Reichle" wrote in message
news:4830937@discussion.autodesk.com...
I'm not counting.

But I attempted to get the "Where's the audio?" pool going during the Civil
3D webcast.

It's the number one query every week, especially early in the webcast.

I suggested to Dave last week that they increase the font height on the
Webcast site to oh, say 120. But all I could get in response was a smiley
face.

And at least I'm on record as intending to stay OT, this time. :-)

--
Don Reichle
"King Of Work-Arounds"
"The only thing worse
than training your staff,
and having them leave is -
not training your staff,
and having them stay."
Courtesy Graphics Solution Providers
--------------------------------------
LDT3/CD3
IntelP4-2.4
1GB RAM
Intel 64MB


"John Michalik" wrote in message
news:4830878@discussion.autodesk.com...
Worth a shot I guess!

2004, vanilla, and ldd. Not sure if I'm missing a variable or what. I
messed around with maxsort, not enough layers to matter anyway, but no
matter where I set it, it didn't change anything. I know I used to use it
in 2000 and it worked fine. What's that make, the third time today that you
got me on incomplete or incorrect data? :smileyhappy:

--
John Michalik
Drafting and Design
LDD/CAD Development & Standards
johnm@weissereng.com
"Don Reichle" wrote in message
news:4830893@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hey John;

We'll attempt to stay on topic this time. :-)

It worked as designed in 2002 - I just tried it successfully.

The version its malfunctioning in is...?

--
Don Reichle
"King Of Work-Arounds"
"The only thing worse
than training your staff,
and having them leave is -
not training your staff,
and having them stay."
Courtesy Graphics Solution Providers
--------------------------------------
LDT3/CD3
IntelP4-2.4
1GB RAM
Intel 64MB


"John Michalik" wrote in message
news:4830884@discussion.autodesk.com...
Ok, If I have xrefs, I don't always want to see those layers. So I go into
the layer manager, choose show all xref layers, and select 'invert filter'.
Poof, xref layers gone. great. Now, I choose the next option which is
'apply filter to layer toolbar. This should apply the same layer view to my
nifty little dropdown layer listing as well correct? It doesn't. Any ideas
on why??

--
John Michalik
Drafting and Design
LDD/CAD Development & Standards
johnm@weissereng.com
*John Michalik
Message 7 of 9 (60 Views)

Re: Layer filtering

04-29-2005 01:38 PM in reply to: *John Michalik
:smileyhappy: 'Courtesy Graphics Solution Providers'? It was my idea to put up a sign
that said, 'you have a job to do, s*** or get off the pot.' Evidently 'that
dog don't hunt' IS a p.c. response from management! We were training,
people weren't listening. Most of those are gone, more are coming in. they
are getting more one on one training. That seems to be working better, and
some of the leftovers are fading away as they are shown up by the new guys.

--
John Michalik
Drafting and Design
LDD/CAD Development & Standards
johnm@weissereng.com
"Don Reichle" wrote in message
news:4830981@discussion.autodesk.com...
You have my permission to use the portion of my signature that applies the
best to your situation, and show it to the folks with the most control over
who stays, and who leaves.

--
Don Reichle
"King Of Work-Arounds"
"The only thing worse
than training your staff,
and having them leave is -
not training your staff,
and having them stay."
Courtesy Graphics Solution Providers
--------------------------------------
LDT3/CD3
IntelP4-2.4
1GB RAM
Intel 64MB


"John Michalik" wrote in message
news:4830977@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hey, thanks Don! That solved it!! :smileyhappy: By the way, you fell off the topic
train again. Have a good one. Oh, and I couldn't find anything in help
either that gave any possible solutions to the filter mess. I guess I'll
just live with it for now. I've got a civil guy over here who is giving me
fits with it though. Wants to put an underscore in front of all his layer
names so they stay at the top. Wasn't sure exactly where to start with that
one. I explained the rules and procedures, didn't work. Talked to his
supervisor, can't say he didn't care, but he doesn't understand the scope of
the problem, so very little help there either. He did say something to the
guy, but again no go. I went into his current project and renamed all the
layers appropriately. Boy THAT got a response. After he was through
venting, I told him to take it to the owner. If the owner sided with him I
would fix it back. Never heard another word. Thankfully, I'm Project
Manager on any arch. projects around here (under the owner) which includes
the info sent from Civil and any other discipline for those projects. I
just send the file on back. It's the regular Civil projects that aren't
part of any of our Arch work that are the problem. I've got standards
management and management on my side, but that doesn't always seem to carry
the game. Gotta come up with better reasoning than 'that dog don't hunt',
management doesn't think it's very P.C. Of course, saying that 'the company
who pays you said to do it that way' isn't getting it either.

--
John Michalik
Drafting and Design
LDD/CAD Development & Standards
johnm@weissereng.com
"Don Reichle" wrote in message
news:4830937@discussion.autodesk.com...
I'm not counting.

But I attempted to get the "Where's the audio?" pool going during the Civil
3D webcast.

It's the number one query every week, especially early in the webcast.

I suggested to Dave last week that they increase the font height on the
Webcast site to oh, say 120. But all I could get in response was a smiley
face.

And at least I'm on record as intending to stay OT, this time. :-)

--
Don Reichle
"King Of Work-Arounds"
"The only thing worse
than training your staff,
and having them leave is -
not training your staff,
and having them stay."
Courtesy Graphics Solution Providers
--------------------------------------
LDT3/CD3
IntelP4-2.4
1GB RAM
Intel 64MB


"John Michalik" wrote in message
news:4830878@discussion.autodesk.com...
Worth a shot I guess!

2004, vanilla, and ldd. Not sure if I'm missing a variable or what. I
messed around with maxsort, not enough layers to matter anyway, but no
matter where I set it, it didn't change anything. I know I used to use it
in 2000 and it worked fine. What's that make, the third time today that you
got me on incomplete or incorrect data? :smileyhappy:

--
John Michalik
Drafting and Design
LDD/CAD Development & Standards
johnm@weissereng.com
"Don Reichle" wrote in message
news:4830893@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hey John;

We'll attempt to stay on topic this time. :-)

It worked as designed in 2002 - I just tried it successfully.

The version its malfunctioning in is...?

--
Don Reichle
"King Of Work-Arounds"
"The only thing worse
than training your staff,
and having them leave is -
not training your staff,
and having them stay."
Courtesy Graphics Solution Providers
--------------------------------------
LDT3/CD3
IntelP4-2.4
1GB RAM
Intel 64MB


"John Michalik" wrote in message
news:4830884@discussion.autodesk.com...
Ok, If I have xrefs, I don't always want to see those layers. So I go into
the layer manager, choose show all xref layers, and select 'invert filter'.
Poof, xref layers gone. great. Now, I choose the next option which is
'apply filter to layer toolbar. This should apply the same layer view to my
nifty little dropdown layer listing as well correct? It doesn't. Any ideas
on why??

--
John Michalik
Drafting and Design
LDD/CAD Development & Standards
johnm@weissereng.com
*Don Reichle
Message 8 of 9 (60 Views)

Re: Layer filtering

04-29-2005 01:41 PM in reply to: *John Michalik
Yeah, I wasn't taking chances with copyrights, so took the safe way out.

It's not a verbatim quote, but hey...

--
Don Reichle
"King Of Work-Arounds"
"The only thing worse
than training your staff,
and having them leave is -
not training your staff,
and having them stay."
Courtesy Graphics Solution Providers
--------------------------------------
LDT3/CD3
IntelP4-2.4
1GB RAM
Intel 64MB


"John Michalik" wrote in message
news:4831017@discussion.autodesk.com...
:smileyhappy: 'Courtesy Graphics Solution Providers'? It was my idea to put up a sign
that said, 'you have a job to do, s*** or get off the pot.' Evidently 'that
dog don't hunt' IS a p.c. response from management! We were training,
people weren't listening. Most of those are gone, more are coming in. they
are getting more one on one training. That seems to be working better, and
some of the leftovers are fading away as they are shown up by the new guys.

--
John Michalik
Drafting and Design
LDD/CAD Development & Standards
johnm@weissereng.com
"Don Reichle" wrote in message
news:4830981@discussion.autodesk.com...
You have my permission to use the portion of my signature that applies the
best to your situation, and show it to the folks with the most control over
who stays, and who leaves.

--
Don Reichle
"King Of Work-Arounds"
"The only thing worse
than training your staff,
and having them leave is -
not training your staff,
and having them stay."
Courtesy Graphics Solution Providers
--------------------------------------
LDT3/CD3
IntelP4-2.4
1GB RAM
Intel 64MB


"John Michalik" wrote in message
news:4830977@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hey, thanks Don! That solved it!! :smileyhappy: By the way, you fell off the topic
train again. Have a good one. Oh, and I couldn't find anything in help
either that gave any possible solutions to the filter mess. I guess I'll
just live with it for now. I've got a civil guy over here who is giving me
fits with it though. Wants to put an underscore in front of all his layer
names so they stay at the top. Wasn't sure exactly where to start with that
one. I explained the rules and procedures, didn't work. Talked to his
supervisor, can't say he didn't care, but he doesn't understand the scope of
the problem, so very little help there either. He did say something to the
guy, but again no go. I went into his current project and renamed all the
layers appropriately. Boy THAT got a response. After he was through
venting, I told him to take it to the owner. If the owner sided with him I
would fix it back. Never heard another word. Thankfully, I'm Project
Manager on any arch. projects around here (under the owner) which includes
the info sent from Civil and any other discipline for those projects. I
just send the file on back. It's the regular Civil projects that aren't
part of any of our Arch work that are the problem. I've got standards
management and management on my side, but that doesn't always seem to carry
the game. Gotta come up with better reasoning than 'that dog don't hunt',
management doesn't think it's very P.C. Of course, saying that 'the company
who pays you said to do it that way' isn't getting it either.

--
John Michalik
Drafting and Design
LDD/CAD Development & Standards
johnm@weissereng.com
"Don Reichle" wrote in message
news:4830937@discussion.autodesk.com...
I'm not counting.

But I attempted to get the "Where's the audio?" pool going during the Civil
3D webcast.

It's the number one query every week, especially early in the webcast.

I suggested to Dave last week that they increase the font height on the
Webcast site to oh, say 120. But all I could get in response was a smiley
face.

And at least I'm on record as intending to stay OT, this time. :-)

--
Don Reichle
"King Of Work-Arounds"
"The only thing worse
than training your staff,
and having them leave is -
not training your staff,
and having them stay."
Courtesy Graphics Solution Providers
--------------------------------------
LDT3/CD3
IntelP4-2.4
1GB RAM
Intel 64MB


"John Michalik" wrote in message
news:4830878@discussion.autodesk.com...
Worth a shot I guess!

2004, vanilla, and ldd. Not sure if I'm missing a variable or what. I
messed around with maxsort, not enough layers to matter anyway, but no
matter where I set it, it didn't change anything. I know I used to use it
in 2000 and it worked fine. What's that make, the third time today that you
got me on incomplete or incorrect data? :smileyhappy:

--
John Michalik
Drafting and Design
LDD/CAD Development & Standards
johnm@weissereng.com
"Don Reichle" wrote in message
news:4830893@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hey John;

We'll attempt to stay on topic this time. :-)

It worked as designed in 2002 - I just tried it successfully.

The version its malfunctioning in is...?

--
Don Reichle
"King Of Work-Arounds"
"The only thing worse
than training your staff,
and having them leave is -
not training your staff,
and having them stay."
Courtesy Graphics Solution Providers
--------------------------------------
LDT3/CD3
IntelP4-2.4
1GB RAM
Intel 64MB


"John Michalik" wrote in message
news:4830884@discussion.autodesk.com...
Ok, If I have xrefs, I don't always want to see those layers. So I go into
the layer manager, choose show all xref layers, and select 'invert filter'.
Poof, xref layers gone. great. Now, I choose the next option which is
'apply filter to layer toolbar. This should apply the same layer view to my
nifty little dropdown layer listing as well correct? It doesn't. Any ideas
on why??

--
John Michalik
Drafting and Design
LDD/CAD Development & Standards
johnm@weissereng.com
*Tony Valentine
Message 9 of 9 (60 Views)

Re: Layer filtering

05-20-2005 08:12 AM in reply to: *John Michalik
John Michalik wrote:
> Worth a shot I guess!
>
> 2004, vanilla, and ldd. Not sure if I'm missing a variable or what. I
> messed around with maxsort, not enough layers to matter anyway, but no
> matter where I set it, it didn't change anything. I know I used to use it
> in 2000 and it worked fine. What's that make, the third time today that you
> got me on incomplete or incorrect data? :smileyhappy:
>
Just thought you would like to know, I'm running Civil Series 2004 and
my filter seems to work. I can filter the layers and it applies it to my
layer properties toolbar bt not the pulldown in the properties dialog box.

Can't figure out what's keeping yours from working though.
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