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*John Mayo
Message 11 of 23 (241 Views)

Re: DescKey

11-27-2007 10:36 AM in reply to: cwls
Sounds like our place.

Unfortunately the magic happen in Excel. Search & replace is the magic wand.
:smileywink:

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John Mayo, PE
Project Engineer
Conklin Associates
Ramsey, NJ

Civil 3D 2008, LDT 2008, Raster Design 2008
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I wasn't aware that the spaces & " would cause problems. I'll see what I can
do to change things around but our survey crew has absolutley NO standards.
I was writing the file with the idea of sticking with what they "generaly"
do & only minimal revisions to their point file to come in right.
Unfortunately all I recieved was a "not gonna happen" laugh when I suggested
having a standard set of descriptions for the future. Maybe I can show them
how much money standards can save them, but then again these are surveyors
we are talking about ;')>

Thanks for the help, I'll see what kind of magic I can work.

Warren
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Warren McCrory
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Message 12 of 23 (241 Views)

Re: DescKey

11-27-2007 11:12 AM in reply to: cwls
Unfortunately I know this magic, just wanted to avoid it if possible ;')>
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cwls
Posts: 21
Registered: ‎07-18-2007
Message 13 of 23 (241 Views)

Re: DescKey

11-28-2007 04:26 AM in reply to: cwls
The desckey file was saved as a prototype.

The batch file is I am talking about consists of the field angles and distances. We still take notes by hand here. No data collector. So the field notes are typed into a batch file. It would be nice to have the symbols plot for trees, irons and so forth and to have things put onto their proper layers using a desckey file.
*John Mayo
Message 14 of 23 (241 Views)

Re: DescKey

11-28-2007 06:10 AM in reply to: cwls
Okay I have a better understanding now.

This should all work. I mean you should still be starting in Land with an
ascii coordinate file. PNEZD or similar format.

The decs keys work in 08 if all the blocks & layers are set up in a
template. We use them as do many others here. Did you try this?

When you go to the Points menu & choose Point Management & then Description
Key Manager, is your description key file in the file tree?

Point menu, Point Settings, Insert tab, is Use Current Point Label Style
checked? Does the dialog say "active desckeys only" just under the check
box? On the Description Keys tab, is Match on Description Parameters
checked?

Label menu, Edit Label Styles, Point tab, select the "active desc keys" only
Point style. Do you have a check on DescKey Matching On? Is your description
key file listed & set current in the drop down field? The next two,
Substitute DescKey Description & Insert DescKey Symbol should also be
checked.

Post back & we'll get it.

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John Mayo, PE
Project Engineer
Conklin Associates
Ramsey, NJ

Civil 3D 2008, LDT 2008, Raster Design 2008
P-IV at 3.5 GHz
2 GB Ram
Nvidea Quadro FX w/ 128 MB Ram
wrote in message news:5786978@discussion.autodesk.com...
The desckey file was saved as a prototype.

The batch file is I am talking about consists of the field angles and
distances. We still take notes by hand here. No data collector. So the
field notes are typed into a batch file. It would be nice to have the
symbols plot for trees, irons and so forth and to have things put onto their
proper layers using a desckey file.
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cwls
Posts: 21
Registered: ‎07-18-2007
Message 15 of 23 (241 Views)

Re: DescKey

11-29-2007 07:31 AM in reply to: cwls
Yes to all of the above. This is a 2004 version of LandDesktop.

The desckey file I created shows up in the list under point management, description key manager.

Under points settings, the "use current point label styles when inserting points" is checked.

The Points Settings, Insert Tab is set to a search path of "c:\Program Files\land desktop 2004\data\symbol manager\cogo\"

The "match on description parameters($1, $2)" is checked.

Under Label Setting on the General Tab the styles files path i s set to "c:\Program Files\Land Desktop 2004\Data\labels\leroy\"

The Labels, Edit Label Styles, Point Label Tab, Name is set to "active desckeys only", Common Symbol is checked, at the bottom right of this dialog box under Description Keys, DesKey Matching is checked, as well as Substitute DescKey Description and Insert Deskey Symbol.

The batch file I'm running is a list of commands, for example:
NE 67 2008890.842 590014.160 IP "FND 1 W/JONES CAP"
NE 12 2001052.318 590076.756 MAG "FND INT. RD"
STA 12
BS 67
AD 14 180.1543 423.165 SPK "SET 8"

and so forth. The IP should plot as the symbol I set up in the DescKey file as and Iron Pipe on the layer PNT_FNDirons as is also set up in the DescKey file. The Mag nail should plot as the symbol I have set up on the layer designated in the description key file.
*John Mayo
Message 16 of 23 (241 Views)

Re: DescKey

11-29-2007 07:46 AM in reply to: cwls
Everything seems to be set up fine.

Is that the bat file output?

Is the bat file providing you with a point file (pnt, csv, etc any asci
file) or fieldbook (fbk) file?

How are you importing the points?


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John Mayo, PE
Project Engineer
Conklin Associates
Ramsey, NJ

Civil 3D 2008, LDT 2008, Raster Design 2008
P-IV at 3.5 GHz
2 GB Ram
Nvidea Quadro FX w/ 128 MB Ram
wrote in message news:5788279@discussion.autodesk.com...
Yes to all of the above. This is a 2004 version of LandDesktop.

The desckey file I created shows up in the list under point management,
description key manager.

Under points settings, the "use current point label styles when inserting
points" is checked.

The Points Settings, Insert Tab is set to a search path of "c:\Program
Files\land desktop 2004\data\symbol manager\cogo\"

The "match on description parameters($1, $2)" is checked.

Under Label Setting on the General Tab the styles files path i s set to
"c:\Program Files\Land Desktop 2004\Data\labels\leroy\"

The Labels, Edit Label Styles, Point Label Tab, Name is set to "active
desckeys only", Common Symbol is checked, at the bottom right of this
dialog box under Description Keys, DesKey Matching is checked, as well as
Substitute DescKey Description and Insert Deskey Symbol.

The batch file I'm running is a list of commands, for example:
NE 67 2008890.842 590014.160 IP "FND 1 W/JONES CAP"
NE 12 2001052.318 590076.756 MAG "FND INT. RD"
STA 12
BS 67
AD 14 180.1543 423.165 SPK "SET 8"

and so forth. The IP should plot as the symbol I set up in the DescKey file
as and Iron Pipe on the layer PNT_FNDirons as is also set up in the DescKey
file. The Mag nail should plot as the symbol I have set up on the layer
designated in the description key file.
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cwls
Posts: 21
Registered: ‎07-18-2007
Message 17 of 23 (241 Views)

Re: DescKey

11-29-2007 07:55 AM in reply to: cwls
What I typed in is a batch.txt input file.

It starts with two known coordinates, then the traverse is entered by AD (angle and distance, horizontal distance therefore no verticle angle).

The bath file is the input. It is the field notes which are hand written in a field book basically transfered "word for word" so to speak into a batch file.

I'm probaly the only person still doing things this old fashsioned way. I know it is hard for you to understand.
That is the way I am told to do my job, I don't make the rules here.
*John Mayo
Message 18 of 23 (241 Views)

Re: DescKey

11-29-2007 08:29 AM in reply to: cwls
No problem. Your manually converting your data, I think I'm following.

How are you creating points? What methods in LDT (manual point creation,
import from point file, Fieldbook)? If you use a file to create them, post a
sample.

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John Mayo, PE
Project Engineer
Conklin Associates
Ramsey, NJ

Civil 3D 2008, LDT 2008, Raster Design 2008
P-IV at 3.5 GHz
2 GB Ram
Nvidea Quadro FX w/ 128 MB Ram
wrote in message news:5788288@discussion.autodesk.com...
What I typed in is a batch.txt input file.

It starts with two known coordinates, then the traverse is entered by AD
(angle and distance, horizontal distance therefore no verticle angle).

The bath file is the input. It is the field notes which are hand written in
a field book basically transfered "word for word" so to speak into a batch
file.

I'm probaly the only person still doing things this old fashsioned way. I
know it is hard for you to understand.
That is the way I am told to do my job, I don't make the rules here.
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cwls
Posts: 21
Registered: ‎07-18-2007
Message 19 of 23 (241 Views)

Re: DescKey

11-29-2007 09:44 AM in reply to: cwls
No, your not following.

The file I posted previously is an example batch.txt file that creates points.

End of story. That is how points are created.

It has worked in the past with other projects. Maybe this file is corrupted somehow.

Lets drop this topic since this is not helpful for this problem.
*John Mayo
Message 20 of 23 (241 Views)

Re: DescKey

11-29-2007 10:45 AM in reply to: cwls
Okay, but I don't think LDT knows how to interpret this out of the box,

NE 67 2008890.842 590014.160 IP "FND 1 W/JONES CAP"
NE 12 2001052.318 590076.756 MAG "FND INT. RD"
STA 12
BS 67
AD 14 180.1543 423.165 SPK "SET 8"



--
John Mayo, PE
Project Engineer
Conklin Associates
Ramsey, NJ

Civil 3D 2008, LDT 2008, Raster Design 2008
P-IV at 3.5 GHz
2 GB Ram
Nvidea Quadro FX w/ 128 MB Ram
wrote in message news:5788477@discussion.autodesk.com...
No, your not following.

The file I posted previously is an example batch.txt file that creates
points.

End of story. That is how points are created.

It has worked in the past with other projects. Maybe this file is corrupted
somehow.

Lets drop this topic since this is not helpful for this problem.
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