Creating a Fieldbook file and line work?

[Anonymous]

1.How do you create a fieldbook file from an ascii file?
2. Any tips on how to field code points so that the program will create line work and place it on the correct layer when the field data is collected in a cross section pattern?

Thanks in advance for any help on these items.

[Anonymous]

This rudimentary tutorial will get you started: http://www.budcad.com/TRAINING/Field%20to%20Office.htm You can use the Data Collection Link to convert from ascii to FBK with linework (assuming you have the connectivity codes in the ascii file. Bud Miller www.BudCAD.com "tjboyer" wrote in message news:3919738.1108665140993.JavaMail.jive@jiveforum2.autodesk.com... > 1.How do you create a fieldbook file from an ascii file? > 2. Any tips on how to field code points so that the program will create > line work and place it on the correct layer when the field data is > collected in a cross section pattern? > > Thanks in advance for any help on these items.

[Anonymous]

You will definitely need to read Help to get clear on it, but basically, if the crew uses linework codes in the field, you get linework. Add any codes to your figure prefix library that you might generate linework from and specify the layer you wish that linework to come in on. It will require trial and error and patience, but is not actually as difficult as it looks at first. As far as ASCii, when you create your ascii file, do not use quotes around the descriptor, the field book conversion adds quotes so you end up with doubles which kills your coding. -- John Michalik Drafting and Design LDD/CAD Development & Standards johnm@weissereng.com "Bud Miller" wrote in message news:4214e525$1_3@newsprd01... > This rudimentary tutorial will get you started: > http://www.budcad.com/TRAINING/Field%20to%20Office.htm > > You can use the Data Collection Link to convert from ascii to FBK with > linework (assuming you have the connectivity codes in the ascii file. > > Bud Miller > www.BudCAD.com > > "tjboyer" wrote in message > news:3919738.1108665140993.JavaMail.jive@jiveforum2.autodesk.com... > > 1.How do you create a fieldbook file from an ascii file? > > 2. Any tips on how to field code points so that the program will create > > line work and place it on the correct layer when the field data is > > collected in a cross section pattern? > > > > Thanks in advance for any help on these items. > >

[Anonymous]

Thanks Bud and John!

[Anonymous]

You're welcome. Good luck. -- John Michalik Drafting and Design LDD/CAD Development & Standards johnm@weissereng.com "tjboyer" wrote in message news:1880077.1108669410277.JavaMail.jive@jiveforum2.autodesk.com... > Thanks Bud and John!

[Anonymous]

You need a party chief that can handle it first. We use BOC1 for Back of Curb or TB1 for Top Bank 1. If crew collects data and enters BEG(TDS Program) then shoots first back of curb point and describes it as BOC1, then the simplest way is to go to next back of curb shot and use BOC1 again, repeat till the end of curb shots and put an END statement. Convert your raw data to a fieldbook file and import flb file and it should draw line. You will have to experiment with figures program to put on layers and linetype you need.This is a VERY simple example we use successfully. Then again, we have strayed from this, because our draftsmen can usually draw a days worth of line work from node to node or by point number range in 10-15 minutes without any blown code entries from field (inexperienced Party Chiefs)that leads to a spider web on the screen. Sbaumer "John Michalik" wrote in message news:4215f1f2$1_3@newsprd01... > You're welcome. Good luck. > > -- > John Michalik > Drafting and Design > LDD/CAD Development & Standards > johnm@weissereng.com > "tjboyer" wrote in message > news:1880077.1108669410277.JavaMail.jive@jiveforum2.autodesk.com... > > Thanks Bud and John! > >

[Anonymous]

There's no realy need to collect sequentially and manually entering END codes is not necessary. The conversion process inserts the END commands automatically when another code is encountered. A dilligent crew is essential but once they get the process down (which really doesn't take long) it's the fastest way to work. Bud Miller www.BudCAD.com Legal descriptions and more in LDT. "Sbaumer" wrote in message news:4216ab2a_3@newsprd01... > You need a party chief that can handle it first. We use BOC1 for Back of > Curb or TB1 for Top Bank 1. If crew collects data and enters BEG(TDS > Program) then shoots first back of curb point and describes it as BOC1, > then > the simplest way is to go to next back of curb shot and use BOC1 again, > repeat till the end of curb shots and put an END statement. Convert your > raw > data to a fieldbook file and import flb file and it should draw line. You > will have to experiment with figures program to put on layers and linetype > you need.This is a VERY simple example we use successfully. Then again, we > have strayed from this, because our draftsmen can usually draw a days > worth > of line work from node to node or by point number range in 10-15 minutes > without any blown code entries from field (inexperienced Party Chiefs)that > leads to a spider web on the screen. > > Sbaumer > > "John Michalik" wrote in message > news:4215f1f2$1_3@newsprd01... >> You're welcome. Good luck. >> >> -- >> John Michalik >> Drafting and Design >> LDD/CAD Development & Standards >> johnm@weissereng.com >> "tjboyer" wrote in message >> news:1880077.1108669410277.JavaMail.jive@jiveforum2.autodesk.com... >> > Thanks Bud and John! >> >> > >

[Anonymous]

I know they don't have to be sequential, I was just giving a very simple example. The previous replies didn't do that. The tutorials on this subject do not exist. We have 5 crews and two of them use the linework commands, which usually come in fine. the info I read on TDS software required a BEG and an END. I am definitely not an expert on this linework stuff myself, just the minimum basics Sbaumer "Bud Miller" wrote in message news:4216c1cd_2@newsprd01... > There's no real need to collect sequentially and manually entering END > codes is not necessary. The conversion process inserts the END commands > automatically when another code is encountered. > > A dilligent crew is essential but once they get the process down (which > really doesn't take long) it's the fastest way to work. > > Bud Miller > www.BudCAD.com > Legal descriptions and more in LDT. > > "Sbaumer" wrote in message news:4216ab2a_3@newsprd01... > > You need a party chief that can handle it first. We use BOC1 for Back of > > Curb or TB1 for Top Bank 1. If crew collects data and enters BEG(TDS > > Program) then shoots first back of curb point and describes it as BOC1, > > then > > the simplest way is to go to next back of curb shot and use BOC1 again, > > repeat till the end of curb shots and put an END statement. Convert your > > raw > > data to a fieldbook file and import flb file and it should draw line. You > > will have to experiment with figures program to put on layers and linetype > > you need.This is a VERY simple example we use successfully. Then again, we > > have strayed from this, because our draftsmen can usually draw a days > > worth > > of line work from node to node or by point number range in 10-15 minutes > > without any blown code entries from field (inexperienced Party Chiefs)that > > leads to a spider web on the screen. > > > > Sbaumer > > > > "John Michalik" wrote in message > > news:4215f1f2$1_3@newsprd01... > >> You're welcome. Good luck. > >> > >> -- > >> John Michalik > >> Drafting and Design > >> LDD/CAD Development & Standards > >> johnm@weissereng.com > >> "tjboyer" wrote in message > >> news:1880077.1108669410277.JavaMail.jive@jiveforum2.autodesk.com... > >> > Thanks Bud and John! > >> > >> > > > > > >

[Anonymous]

Every time an instrument man here misses an END code, you can tell. All points up to the next begin are connected. And God forbid that they missed an END code right before doing ground topo for a 30 acre sight!!! We use SDR-33's and Trimble collectors, dumping into LDD2004. "Bud Miller" wrote in message news:4216c1cd_2@newsprd01... > There's no realy need to collect sequentially and manually entering END > codes is not necessary. The conversion process inserts the END commands > automatically when another code is encountered. > > A dilligent crew is essential but once they get the process down (which > really doesn't take long) it's the fastest way to work. > > Bud Miller > www.BudCAD.com > Legal descriptions and more in LDT. > > "Sbaumer" wrote in message news:4216ab2a_3@newsprd01... >> You need a party chief that can handle it first. We use BOC1 for Back of >> Curb or TB1 for Top Bank 1. If crew collects data and enters BEG(TDS >> Program) then shoots first back of curb point and describes it as BOC1, >> then >> the simplest way is to go to next back of curb shot and use BOC1 again, >> repeat till the end of curb shots and put an END statement. Convert your >> raw >> data to a fieldbook file and import flb file and it should draw line. You >> will have to experiment with figures program to put on layers and >> linetype >> you need.This is a VERY simple example we use successfully. Then again, >> we >> have strayed from this, because our draftsmen can usually draw a days >> worth >> of line work from node to node or by point number range in 10-15 minutes >> without any blown code entries from field (inexperienced Party >> Chiefs)that >> leads to a spider web on the screen. >> >> Sbaumer >> >> "John Michalik" wrote in message >> news:4215f1f2$1_3@newsprd01... >>> You're welcome. Good luck. >>> >>> -- >>> John Michalik >>> Drafting and Design >>> LDD/CAD Development & Standards >>> johnm@weissereng.com >>> "tjboyer" wrote in message >>> news:1880077.1108669410277.JavaMail.jive@jiveforum2.autodesk.com... >>> > Thanks Bud and John! >>> >>> >> >> > >

[Anonymous]

Hi Dennis, Are your collector settings correct? I've never entered an END code and none of the crews I work with do either (SDR33's and Nikon DTM's). We only ever use B, C3 and R. The conversion takes care of the ENDs (not sure about Trimble) as long as the collector settings in LDT are correct (match figure name to desc.). Bud Miller www.BudCAD.com Legal descriptions and more in LDT "Dennis Hyman" wrote in message news:4219fd4c$1_1@newsprd01... > Every time an instrument man here misses an END code, you can tell. All > points up to the next begin are connected. And God forbid that they > missed an END code right before doing ground topo for a 30 acre sight!!! > > We use SDR-33's and Trimble collectors, dumping into LDD2004. > > > "Bud Miller" wrote in message > news:4216c1cd_2@newsprd01... >> There's no realy need to collect sequentially and manually entering END >> codes is not necessary. The conversion process inserts the END commands >> automatically when another code is encountered. >> >> A dilligent crew is essential but once they get the process down (which >> really doesn't take long) it's the fastest way to work. >> >> Bud Miller >> www.BudCAD.com >> Legal descriptions and more in LDT. >> >> "Sbaumer" wrote in message >> news:4216ab2a_3@newsprd01... >>> You need a party chief that can handle it first. We use BOC1 for Back of >>> Curb or TB1 for Top Bank 1. If crew collects data and enters BEG(TDS >>> Program) then shoots first back of curb point and describes it as BOC1, >>> then >>> the simplest way is to go to next back of curb shot and use BOC1 again, >>> repeat till the end of curb shots and put an END statement. Convert your >>> raw >>> data to a fieldbook file and import flb file and it should draw line. >>> You >>> will have to experiment with figures program to put on layers and >>> linetype >>> you need.This is a VERY simple example we use successfully. Then again, >>> we >>> have strayed from this, because our draftsmen can usually draw a days >>> worth >>> of line work from node to node or by point number range in 10-15 minutes >>> without any blown code entries from field (inexperienced Party >>> Chiefs)that >>> leads to a spider web on the screen. >>> >>> Sbaumer >>> >>> "John Michalik" wrote in message >>> news:4215f1f2$1_3@newsprd01... >>>> You're welcome. Good luck. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> John Michalik >>>> Drafting and Design >>>> LDD/CAD Development & Standards >>>> johnm@weissereng.com >>>> "tjboyer" wrote in message >>>> news:1880077.1108669410277.JavaMail.jive@jiveforum2.autodesk.com... >>>> > Thanks Bud and John! >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >

[Anonymous]

I couldn't really tell you.....I'm not the manager of the crews, I'm a draftsman in the survey department, with additional IT duties, such as solving ACAD problems, printer issues, etc. I even run the backups and restores for the server, at times. It's amazing I get anything done, with all things considered. What kind of setting should I be looking for that would allow the elimination of the "end" command? "Bud" wrote in message news:421a1b96_1@newsprd01... > Hi Dennis, > > Are your collector settings correct? I've never entered an END code and > none of the crews I work with do either (SDR33's and Nikon DTM's). We only > ever use B, C3 and R. The conversion takes care of the ENDs (not sure > about Trimble) as long as the collector settings in LDT are correct (match > figure name to desc.). > > Bud Miller > www.BudCAD.com > Legal descriptions and more in LDT > > "Dennis Hyman" wrote in message > news:4219fd4c$1_1@newsprd01... >> Every time an instrument man here misses an END code, you can tell. All >> points up to the next begin are connected. And God forbid that they >> missed an END code right before doing ground topo for a 30 acre sight!!! >> >> We use SDR-33's and Trimble collectors, dumping into LDD2004. >> >> >> "Bud Miller" wrote in message >> news:4216c1cd_2@newsprd01... >>> There's no realy need to collect sequentially and manually entering END >>> codes is not necessary. The conversion process inserts the END commands >>> automatically when another code is encountered. >>> >>> A dilligent crew is essential but once they get the process down (which >>> really doesn't take long) it's the fastest way to work. >>> >>> Bud Miller >>> www.BudCAD.com >>> Legal descriptions and more in LDT. >>> >>> "Sbaumer" wrote in message >>> news:4216ab2a_3@newsprd01... >>>> You need a party chief that can handle it first. We use BOC1 for Back >>>> of >>>> Curb or TB1 for Top Bank 1. If crew collects data and enters BEG(TDS >>>> Program) then shoots first back of curb point and describes it as BOC1, >>>> then >>>> the simplest way is to go to next back of curb shot and use BOC1 again, >>>> repeat till the end of curb shots and put an END statement. Convert >>>> your raw >>>> data to a fieldbook file and import flb file and it should draw line. >>>> You >>>> will have to experiment with figures program to put on layers and >>>> linetype >>>> you need.This is a VERY simple example we use successfully. Then again, >>>> we >>>> have strayed from this, because our draftsmen can usually draw a days >>>> worth >>>> of line work from node to node or by point number range in 10-15 >>>> minutes >>>> without any blown code entries from field (inexperienced Party >>>> Chiefs)that >>>> leads to a spider web on the screen. >>>> >>>> Sbaumer >>>> >>>> "John Michalik" wrote in message >>>> news:4215f1f2$1_3@newsprd01... >>>>> You're welcome. Good luck. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> John Michalik >>>>> Drafting and Design >>>>> LDD/CAD Development & Standards >>>>> johnm@weissereng.com >>>>> "tjboyer" wrote in message >>>>> news:1880077.1108669410277.JavaMail.jive@jiveforum2.autodesk.com... >>>>> > Thanks Bud and John! >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >

[Anonymous]

Match figure name with point description: Connects figure line work to points that have the same descriptor as the current figure name. When this box is cleared, the figure is drawn sequentially from point to point regardless of point descriptor. It might also depend on the conversions you use. Bud Miller www.BudCAD.com Legal descriptions and more in LDT "Dennis Hyman" wrote in message news:421a2d16$1_2@newsprd01... >I couldn't really tell you.....I'm not the manager of the crews, I'm a >draftsman in the survey department, with additional IT duties, such as >solving ACAD problems, printer issues, etc. I even run the backups and >restores for the server, at times. It's amazing I get anything done, with >all things considered. What kind of setting should I be looking for that >would allow the elimination of the "end" command? > > > "Bud" wrote in message news:421a1b96_1@newsprd01... >> Hi Dennis, >> >> Are your collector settings correct? I've never entered an END code and >> none of the crews I work with do either (SDR33's and Nikon DTM's). We >> only ever use B, C3 and R. The conversion takes care of the ENDs (not >> sure about Trimble) as long as the collector settings in LDT are correct >> (match figure name to desc.). >> >> Bud Miller >> www.BudCAD.com >> Legal descriptions and more in LDT >> >> "Dennis Hyman" wrote in message >> news:4219fd4c$1_1@newsprd01... >>> Every time an instrument man here misses an END code, you can tell. All >>> points up to the next begin are connected. And God forbid that they >>> missed an END code right before doing ground topo for a 30 acre sight!!! >>> >>> We use SDR-33's and Trimble collectors, dumping into LDD2004. >>> >>> >>> "Bud Miller" wrote in message >>> news:4216c1cd_2@newsprd01... >>>> There's no realy need to collect sequentially and manually entering END >>>> codes is not necessary. The conversion process inserts the END commands >>>> automatically when another code is encountered. >>>> >>>> A dilligent crew is essential but once they get the process down (which >>>> really doesn't take long) it's the fastest way to work. >>>> >>>> Bud Miller >>>> www.BudCAD.com >>>> Legal descriptions and more in LDT. >>>> >>>> "Sbaumer" wrote in message >>>> news:4216ab2a_3@newsprd01... >>>>> You need a party chief that can handle it first. We use BOC1 for Back >>>>> of >>>>> Curb or TB1 for Top Bank 1. If crew collects data and enters BEG(TDS >>>>> Program) then shoots first back of curb point and describes it as >>>>> BOC1, then >>>>> the simplest way is to go to next back of curb shot and use BOC1 >>>>> again, >>>>> repeat till the end of curb shots and put an END statement. Convert >>>>> your raw >>>>> data to a fieldbook file and import flb file and it should draw line. >>>>> You >>>>> will have to experiment with figures program to put on layers and >>>>> linetype >>>>> you need.This is a VERY simple example we use successfully. Then >>>>> again, we >>>>> have strayed from this, because our draftsmen can usually draw a days >>>>> worth >>>>> of line work from node to node or by point number range in 10-15 >>>>> minutes >>>>> without any blown code entries from field (inexperienced Party >>>>> Chiefs)that >>>>> leads to a spider web on the screen. >>>>> >>>>> Sbaumer >>>>> >>>>> "John Michalik" wrote in message >>>>> news:4215f1f2$1_3@newsprd01... >>>>>> You're welcome. Good luck. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> John Michalik >>>>>> Drafting and Design >>>>>> LDD/CAD Development & Standards >>>>>> johnm@weissereng.com >>>>>> "tjboyer" wrote in message >>>>>> news:1880077.1108669410277.JavaMail.jive@jiveforum2.autodesk.com... >>>>>> > Thanks Bud and John! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >

[Anonymous]

To get rid of the END command, use point codes with numbers. Such as TOB.10 TOB.11 Remember autodesk put bear minimun effort in creating this linework utility. If you use BEG without end all likewise named points will be connected within that import. If you use an alternate numbers code then obviously the code is its own entity. It becomes necc. to add extra elements into your Description Key by that method. To have a simpler method, tell the guys to input an end. I had to do my own investigation, very little is written about Survey, I think it was written for an abacus originally.