2008 - Can't Add or Remove Menus

[Anonymous]

We just went from 2004 to 2008 and the method to add and remove menus is completely different. There are cui files instead of mnu files. The menuload command now only loads cui files it seems and doesn't add or remove menus. I've played around with customize interface dialog and I have to admit it is confusing. Autodesk out did themselves on this one. It seems they are taking after Microsoft and making new releases more difficult to use. Sorry for the rant. Anyway, I've managed to add a few civil menus to a custom workspace that started from land desktop complete. The problem is now I can't add or remove any menus from this workspace. I add or remove menus and click done and the workspace reloads but the menus don't change even though the workspace dialog has the changes. I have spent hours now searching the knowledge base and the discussion groups but since I don't know when the menus changed I'm not sure what I'm looking for. Any help for a frustrated user of a new version?

[Anonymous]

What does the Land desktop complete & civil Cui not have that you need?


Do you have the Work Space tool bar? If not load it up and reselect LDT
complete... may you need to reset.

Joe

I don't understand how you could clear the check box in the CUI editor and
not have changes applied? maybe its a SP1 issue? did you apply the recently
released Service Pac?




if you don'
wrote in message news:5675708@discussion.autodesk.com...
We just went from 2004 to 2008 and the method to add and remove menus is
completely different. There are cui files instead of mnu files. The
menuload command now only loads cui files it seems and doesn't add or remove
menus. I've played around with customize interface dialog and I have to
admit it is confusing. Autodesk out did themselves on this one. It seems
they are taking after Microsoft and making new releases more difficult to
use. Sorry for the rant. Anyway, I've managed to add a few civil menus to
a custom workspace that started from land desktop complete. The problem is
now I can't add or remove any menus from this workspace. I add or remove
menus and click done and the workspace reloads but the menus don't change
even though the workspace dialog has the changes. I have spent hours now
searching the knowledge base and the discussion groups but since I don't
know when the menus changed I'm not sure what I'm looking for. Any help for
a frustrated user of a new version?

[Anonymous]

is this part of the bug with having workspaces autosave? i turned mine off
at the first because of what i read here and don't know if SP1 addressed it.

--
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Doug K
Windows XP Pro SP2
LandDesktop Companion 2008 SP1
HP Compaq dc7700p Convertible
Intel Dual Core 6400 @ 2.13GHz
2G Ram, 232 GB HD
ATI Radeon X1600 256MB
Dual 19" Dell Monitors
Kensington Trackball (left-handed)


"Joe Bouza" wrote in message
news:5675807@discussion.autodesk.com...
What does the Land desktop complete & civil Cui not have that you need?


Do you have the Work Space tool bar? If not load it up and reselect LDT
complete... may you need to reset.

Joe

I don't understand how you could clear the check box in the CUI editor and
not have changes applied? maybe its a SP1 issue? did you apply the recently
released Service Pac?




if you don'
wrote in message news:5675708@discussion.autodesk.com...
We just went from 2004 to 2008 and the method to add and remove menus is
completely different. There are cui files instead of mnu files. The
menuload command now only loads cui files it seems and doesn't add or remove
menus. I've played around with customize interface dialog and I have to
admit it is confusing. Autodesk out did themselves on this one. It seems
they are taking after Microsoft and making new releases more difficult to
use. Sorry for the rant. Anyway, I've managed to add a few civil menus to
a custom workspace that started from land desktop complete. The problem is
now I can't add or remove any menus from this workspace. I add or remove
menus and click done and the workspace reloads but the menus don't change
even though the workspace dialog has the changes. I have spent hours now
searching the knowledge base and the discussion groups but since I don't
know when the menus changed I'm not sure what I'm looking for. Any help for
a frustrated user of a new version?

[Anonymous]

I haven't seen this in 2008 but I haven't worked in it much. If you make
your changes and then close the drawing are the menus still missing when you
open a new session of LDT?

Don't worry. Everyone felt the same way about the CUI when it was first
introduced. Now many (including me) find it is actually easier to use. I've
accomplished a few thing with it that I hadn't gotten done in the old menu
files. Keep trying and post your progress.

Allen

wrote in message news:5675708@discussion.autodesk.com...
We just went from 2004 to 2008 and the method to add and remove menus is
completely different. There are cui files instead of mnu files. The
menuload command now only loads cui files it seems and doesn't add or remove
menus. I've played around with customize interface dialog and I have to
admit it is confusing. Autodesk out did themselves on this one. It seems
they are taking after Microsoft and making new releases more difficult to
use. Sorry for the rant. Anyway, I've managed to add a few civil menus to
a custom workspace that started from land desktop complete. The problem is
now I can't add or remove any menus from this workspace. I add or remove
menus and click done and the workspace reloads but the menus don't change
even though the workspace dialog has the changes. I have spent hours now
searching the knowledge base and the discussion groups but since I don't
know when the menus changed I'm not sure what I'm looking for. Any help for
a frustrated user of a new version?

[Anonymous]

Rich,

Are you aware that you cannot modify the current/active workspace. In the
CUI editor, right-click on a workspace that you are not modifying & select
Set Current, then try to edit the workspace.


--
John Mayo
Project Engineer
Conklin Associates
Ramsey, NJ

Civil 3D 2008, LDT 2008, Raster Design 2008
P-IV at 3.5 GHz
2 GB Ram
Nvidea Quadro FX w/ 128 MB Ram
wrote in message news:5675708@discussion.autodesk.com...
We just went from 2004 to 2008 and the method to add and remove menus is
completely different. There are cui files instead of mnu files. The
menuload command now only loads cui files it seems and doesn't add or remove
menus. I've played around with customize interface dialog and I have to
admit it is confusing. Autodesk out did themselves on this one. It seems
they are taking after Microsoft and making new releases more difficult to
use. Sorry for the rant. Anyway, I've managed to add a few civil menus to
a custom workspace that started from land desktop complete. The problem is
now I can't add or remove any menus from this workspace. I add or remove
menus and click done and the workspace reloads but the menus don't change
even though the workspace dialog has the changes. I have spent hours now
searching the knowledge base and the discussion groups but since I don't
know when the menus changed I'm not sure what I'm looking for. Any help for
a frustrated user of a new version?

[terryl]

What I've found is that you can not modify the current workspace, change to a different workspace, go into the CUI and make the changes you want to the workspace and then save your changes, get out of the CUI and switch back to the workspace that you just modified.

[Anonymous]

Funny, I have no problem adding menus to the active workspace. Just did a
test and added 2 in LDT C3D Comp. 2008.

Allen

"John Mayo" wrote in message
news:5676196@discussion.autodesk.com...
Rich,

Are you aware that you cannot modify the current/active workspace. In the
CUI editor, right-click on a workspace that you are not modifying & select
Set Current, then try to edit the workspace.


--
John Mayo
Project Engineer
Conklin Associates
Ramsey, NJ

Civil 3D 2008, LDT 2008, Raster Design 2008
P-IV at 3.5 GHz
2 GB Ram
Nvidea Quadro FX w/ 128 MB Ram
wrote in message news:5675708@discussion.autodesk.com...
We just went from 2004 to 2008 and the method to add and remove menus is
completely different. There are cui files instead of mnu files. The
menuload command now only loads cui files it seems and doesn't add or remove
menus. I've played around with customize interface dialog and I have to
admit it is confusing. Autodesk out did themselves on this one. It seems
they are taking after Microsoft and making new releases more difficult to
use. Sorry for the rant. Anyway, I've managed to add a few civil menus to
a custom workspace that started from land desktop complete. The problem is
now I can't add or remove any menus from this workspace. I add or remove
menus and click done and the workspace reloads but the menus don't change
even though the workspace dialog has the changes. I have spent hours now
searching the knowledge base and the discussion groups but since I don't
know when the menus changed I'm not sure what I'm looking for. Any help for
a frustrated user of a new version?

[Anonymous]

yeah me too, you just have to click on it within the cui editor.

but i could have sworn that was a problem.

SP1 at work here?

--
(email addy is bogus, do not use unless you want to spam the gov't agency
that monitors spam)
Doug K
Windows XP Pro SP2
LandDesktop Companion 2008 SP1
HP Compaq dc7700p Convertible
Intel Dual Core 6400 @ 2.13GHz
2G Ram, 232 GB HD
ATI Radeon X1600 256MB
Dual 19" Dell Monitors
Kensington Trackball (left-handed)


"Allen Jessup" wrote in message
news:5676455@discussion.autodesk.com...
Funny, I have no problem adding menus to the active workspace. Just did a
test and added 2 in LDT C3D Comp. 2008.

[Anonymous]

Maybe it is new. It was also an issue in 06 & 07 I believe.

The changes you make are sticking after exiting the editor?

--
John Mayo
Project Engineer
Conklin Associates
Ramsey, NJ

Civil 3D 2008, LDT 2008, Raster Design 2008
P-IV at 3.5 GHz
2 GB Ram
Nvidea Quadro FX w/ 128 MB Ram
"DougK" wrote in message
news:5676686@discussion.autodesk.com...
yeah me too, you just have to click on it within the cui editor.

but i could have sworn that was a problem.

SP1 at work here?

--
(email addy is bogus, do not use unless you want to spam the gov't agency
that monitors spam)
Doug K
Windows XP Pro SP2
LandDesktop Companion 2008 SP1
HP Compaq dc7700p Convertible
Intel Dual Core 6400 @ 2.13GHz
2G Ram, 232 GB HD
ATI Radeon X1600 256MB
Dual 19" Dell Monitors
Kensington Trackball (left-handed)


"Allen Jessup" wrote in message
news:5676455@discussion.autodesk.com...
Funny, I have no problem adding menus to the active workspace. Just did a
test and added 2 in LDT C3D Comp. 2008.

[Anonymous]

yes, for now.....


"John Mayo" wrote in message
news:5676690@discussion.autodesk.com...
Maybe it is new. It was also an issue in 06 & 07 I believe.

The changes you make are sticking after exiting the editor?

[Anonymous]

Yes. I closed and reopened LDT and the new menus were still there. I also
never had a problem in 2006. The only Problem I sometimes had was that the
changes would not show until the next time the program was started.

Allen

"John Mayo" wrote in message
news:5676690@discussion.autodesk.com...
Maybe it is new. It was also an issue in 06 & 07 I believe.

The changes you make are sticking after exiting the editor?

--
John Mayo
Project Engineer
Conklin Associates
Ramsey, NJ

Civil 3D 2008, LDT 2008, Raster Design 2008
P-IV at 3.5 GHz
2 GB Ram
Nvidea Quadro FX w/ 128 MB Ram
"DougK" wrote in message
news:5676686@discussion.autodesk.com...
yeah me too, you just have to click on it within the cui editor.

but i could have sworn that was a problem.

SP1 at work here?

--
(email addy is bogus, do not use unless you want to spam the gov't agency
that monitors spam)
Doug K
Windows XP Pro SP2
LandDesktop Companion 2008 SP1
HP Compaq dc7700p Convertible
Intel Dual Core 6400 @ 2.13GHz
2G Ram, 232 GB HD
ATI Radeon X1600 256MB
Dual 19" Dell Monitors
Kensington Trackball (left-handed)


"Allen Jessup" wrote in message
news:5676455@discussion.autodesk.com...
Funny, I have no problem adding menus to the active workspace. Just did a
test and added 2 in LDT C3D Comp. 2008.

[Anonymous]

Live & learn.

--
John Mayo
Project Engineer
Conklin Associates
Ramsey, NJ

Civil 3D 2008, LDT 2008, Raster Design 2008
P-IV at 3.5 GHz
2 GB Ram
Nvidea Quadro FX w/ 128 MB Ram
"Allen Jessup" wrote in message
news:5676806@discussion.autodesk.com...
Yes. I closed and reopened LDT and the new menus were still there. I also
never had a problem in 2006. The only Problem I sometimes had was that the
changes would not show until the next time the program was started.

Allen

"John Mayo" wrote in message
news:5676690@discussion.autodesk.com...
Maybe it is new. It was also an issue in 06 & 07 I believe.

The changes you make are sticking after exiting the editor?

--
John Mayo
Project Engineer
Conklin Associates
Ramsey, NJ

Civil 3D 2008, LDT 2008, Raster Design 2008
P-IV at 3.5 GHz
2 GB Ram
Nvidea Quadro FX w/ 128 MB Ram
"DougK" wrote in message
news:5676686@discussion.autodesk.com...
yeah me too, you just have to click on it within the cui editor.

but i could have sworn that was a problem.

SP1 at work here?

--
(email addy is bogus, do not use unless you want to spam the gov't agency
that monitors spam)
Doug K
Windows XP Pro SP2
LandDesktop Companion 2008 SP1
HP Compaq dc7700p Convertible
Intel Dual Core 6400 @ 2.13GHz
2G Ram, 232 GB HD
ATI Radeon X1600 256MB
Dual 19" Dell Monitors
Kensington Trackball (left-handed)


"Allen Jessup" wrote in message
news:5676455@discussion.autodesk.com...
Funny, I have no problem adding menus to the active workspace. Just did a
test and added 2 in LDT C3D Comp. 2008.

[Anonymous]

I still can't do this. Even with an exit from C3D.

I just loaded a cui for AutoLux lighting. Exited the cui editor. Loaded it
again & tried to add the autolux menu to the current workspace. The menu did
not appear after exiting the cui editor nor when I restarted C3D.

Sitll livin', still learnin'.

--
John Mayo
Project Engineer
Conklin Associates
Ramsey, NJ

Civil 3D 2008, LDT 2008, Raster Design 2008
P-IV at 3.5 GHz
2 GB Ram
Nvidea Quadro FX w/ 128 MB Ram
"John Mayo" wrote in message
news:5676907@discussion.autodesk.com...
Live & learn.

--
John Mayo
Project Engineer
Conklin Associates
Ramsey, NJ

Civil 3D 2008, LDT 2008, Raster Design 2008
P-IV at 3.5 GHz
2 GB Ram
Nvidea Quadro FX w/ 128 MB Ram
"Allen Jessup" wrote in message
news:5676806@discussion.autodesk.com...
Yes. I closed and reopened LDT and the new menus were still there. I also
never had a problem in 2006. The only Problem I sometimes had was that the
changes would not show until the next time the program was started.

Allen

"John Mayo" wrote in message
news:5676690@discussion.autodesk.com...
Maybe it is new. It was also an issue in 06 & 07 I believe.

The changes you make are sticking after exiting the editor?

--
John Mayo
Project Engineer
Conklin Associates
Ramsey, NJ

Civil 3D 2008, LDT 2008, Raster Design 2008
P-IV at 3.5 GHz
2 GB Ram
Nvidea Quadro FX w/ 128 MB Ram
"DougK" wrote in message
news:5676686@discussion.autodesk.com...
yeah me too, you just have to click on it within the cui editor.

but i could have sworn that was a problem.

SP1 at work here?

--
(email addy is bogus, do not use unless you want to spam the gov't agency
that monitors spam)
Doug K
Windows XP Pro SP2
LandDesktop Companion 2008 SP1
HP Compaq dc7700p Convertible
Intel Dual Core 6400 @ 2.13GHz
2G Ram, 232 GB HD
ATI Radeon X1600 256MB
Dual 19" Dell Monitors
Kensington Trackball (left-handed)


"Allen Jessup" wrote in message
news:5676455@discussion.autodesk.com...
Funny, I have no problem adding menus to the active workspace. Just did a
test and added 2 in LDT C3D Comp. 2008.

[Anonymous]

Thanks DougK, that was it. Our internet connection went down or I would have posted this reply sooner. I can't update the workspace through customize interface when autosave workspace is on. I think the reload that happens when I press done triggers the autosave and overwrites the changes I just made. A minor bug but kind of funny now that I know what is happening. In order to change the workspace through custom interface you need to turn off autosave first then turn it back on after you make the changes. Thanks for the help.

[Anonymous]

I think so much of this depends on slight differences in each installation.
Hardware, other software, pathing, etc. I often seem to be lucky with things
like this. I was one of the few who used Wipeouts and TextMask happily while
others had numerous problems when using them.

Sorry this isn't working for you.
Allen

"John Mayo" wrote in message
news:5677698@discussion.autodesk.com...
I still can't do this. Even with an exit from C3D.

I just loaded a cui for AutoLux lighting. Exited the cui editor. Loaded it
again & tried to add the autolux menu to the current workspace. The menu did
not appear after exiting the cui editor nor when I restarted C3D.

Sitll livin', still learnin'.

--
John Mayo
Project Engineer
Conklin Associates
Ramsey, NJ

Civil 3D 2008, LDT 2008, Raster Design 2008
P-IV at 3.5 GHz
2 GB Ram
Nvidea Quadro FX w/ 128 MB Ram
"John Mayo" wrote in message
news:5676907@discussion.autodesk.com...
Live & learn.

--
John Mayo
Project Engineer
Conklin Associates
Ramsey, NJ

Civil 3D 2008, LDT 2008, Raster Design 2008
P-IV at 3.5 GHz
2 GB Ram
Nvidea Quadro FX w/ 128 MB Ram
"Allen Jessup" wrote in message
news:5676806@discussion.autodesk.com...
Yes. I closed and reopened LDT and the new menus were still there. I also
never had a problem in 2006. The only Problem I sometimes had was that the
changes would not show until the next time the program was started.

Allen

"John Mayo" wrote in message
news:5676690@discussion.autodesk.com...
Maybe it is new. It was also an issue in 06 & 07 I believe.

The changes you make are sticking after exiting the editor?

--
John Mayo
Project Engineer
Conklin Associates
Ramsey, NJ

Civil 3D 2008, LDT 2008, Raster Design 2008
P-IV at 3.5 GHz
2 GB Ram
Nvidea Quadro FX w/ 128 MB Ram
"DougK" wrote in message
news:5676686@discussion.autodesk.com...
yeah me too, you just have to click on it within the cui editor.

but i could have sworn that was a problem.

SP1 at work here?

--
(email addy is bogus, do not use unless you want to spam the gov't agency
that monitors spam)
Doug K
Windows XP Pro SP2
LandDesktop Companion 2008 SP1
HP Compaq dc7700p Convertible
Intel Dual Core 6400 @ 2.13GHz
2G Ram, 232 GB HD
ATI Radeon X1600 256MB
Dual 19" Dell Monitors
Kensington Trackball (left-handed)


"Allen Jessup" wrote in message
news:5676455@discussion.autodesk.com...
Funny, I have no problem adding menus to the active workspace. Just did a
test and added 2 in LDT C3D Comp. 2008.

[Anonymous]

john, are you looking for new pulldown menus ?
I think there is a limit to how many you can display.

[Anonymous]

24 from my recollection. I asked for it to be increased. But.....

"DougK" wrote in message
news:5679352@discussion.autodesk.com...
john, are you looking for new pulldown menus ?
I think there is a limit to how many you can display.

[Anonymous]

Hi Allen,

It's 24 max on startup. Once started you can display as many as you like.

One approach (for versions 2006 onwards) is to add a command to your
acad.lsp along the lines of:

(Command "Workspace" "C" "MyWorkspace")

--

Laurie Comerford
CADApps
www.cadapps.com.au
www.civil3Dtools.com

"Allen Jessup" wrote in message
news:5679575@discussion.autodesk.com...
24 from my recollection. I asked for it to be increased. But.....

"DougK" wrote in message
news:5679352@discussion.autodesk.com...
john, are you looking for new pulldown menus ?
I think there is a limit to how many you can display.

[Anonymous]

I'm having the exact same problem and have tried the solution below by unchecking the autosave.
It is not working for me. I'm thinking that maybe it's my mouse, one of those new Logitech Laser mice. Someone else in my office has the same problem and the rest of the CAD folks here do not have this problem.
Please HELP!
Thanks
Cathy

[Anonymous]

Laurie. A belated thanks. Good thing I review old posts a couple of times a
year.

"Laurie Comerford" wrote in message
news:5679732@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hi Allen,

It's 24 max on startup. Once started you can display as many as you like.

One approach (for versions 2006 onwards) is to add a command to your
acad.lsp along the lines of:

(Command "Workspace" "C" "MyWorkspace")

--

Laurie Comerford
CADApps
www.cadapps.com.au
www.civil3Dtools.com

"Allen Jessup" wrote in message
news:5679575@discussion.autodesk.com...
24 from my recollection. I asked for it to be increased. But.....

"DougK" wrote in message
news:5679352@discussion.autodesk.com...
john, are you looking for new pulldown menus ?
I think there is a limit to how many you can display.