AutoCAD for Mac General Discussion

AutoCAD for Mac General Discussion

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tjarolimek
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Similar Windows Interface for AutoCAD Mac?

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06-28-2012 06:59 AM

Hello,


I just read a recent post where someone asked if it is possible to change the interface for AutoCAD Mac to look more similar to that of AutoCAD windows, and it was replied to that that is not possible. My question is simliar but not completely the same; I am taking an AutoCAD class and will be using it reguarly in my major discipline. Part of the reason I even bought a new Macbook Pro was because of the new support for Mac across the programs required by my University's college. Now that I'm starting AutoCAD, I'm being told that I'll be required to purchase Bootcamp or Parallels, and use the windows version, rather than the mac version. My questions are:

 

1. How different from the windows version is the Mac version? My teacher replied with the statement "I will be teaching the Windows version, so you will be required to use that." Are they exceptionally different from each other? Even if they are, will it be possible for me to figure things out? I have moderate experience with AutoCAD 2010 for Windows.

 

2. Say they aren't simliar; is there any way to change the interface so that they are similar?

 

3. The above questions are not possible to do. For anyone with a similar experience, what is the best way to run a windows based program on a Mac? I am looking for optimum efficiency and lowest price.

 

Thanks,
Todd J

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maxim_k
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Re: Similar Windows Interface for AutoCAD Mac?

06-28-2012 09:23 AM in reply to: tjarolimek

Hi Todd,

 


tjarolimek wrote:

1. How different from the windows version is the Mac version? My teacher replied with the statement "I will be teaching the Windows version, so you will be required to use that." Are they exceptionally different from each other? Even if they are, will it be possible for me to figure things out? I have moderate experience with AutoCAD 2010 for Windows.


Some people find that these differences are extremely great. For most users, the lack of Ribbon in the version for Mac is a somewhat major "stumbling block".

From my own experience I can say that I had no particular difficulties with the transition to Mac version from AutoCAD 2007 for Windows.

But if you are taking an AutoCAD class and you will learn AC for Win at class, then you need to use AC for Windows on methodological reasons.


tjarolimek wrote:

2. Say they aren't similar; is there any way to change the interface so that they are similar?


As you know - it is impossible. OK, I can say, that AC for Mac looks more like AC 2005-2007 for Win (i.e. before introducing the Ribbon and Windows-style Tool Palettes.

 


tjarolimek wrote:
I'm being told that I'll be required to purchase Bootcamp or Parallels, and use the windows version, rather than the mac version.

.....

 

3. The above questions are not possible to do. For anyone with a similar experience, what is the best way to run a windows based program on a Mac? I am looking for optimum efficiency and lowest price.


You don't need to purchase Bootcamp (it is the only name for Windows partition on Mac hard drive).

So if you need to run Windows version of AC on Mac you have two options:


1. Install Windows on Bootcamp partition and every time when you need to run AutoCAD yo have to restart your Mac from Bootcamp partition.


2. You can install Windows (and AC in it) inside virtual machine. This could be paid Parallels Desktop, VMware Fusion or even free Virtual Box.


So you have to pay for Windows (in both cases) and for one of the visualization software (except Virtual Box). If you are student - I think you can have some discount for Parallels (and maybe for VMware).

BTW: you can install Windows on Bootcamp, then install visualization soft (of your choice) and run Windows installed on Bootcamp from Mac side with the help of this visualization software, at the same time you leave an opportunity to restart from Bootcamp, if you need "fantastic" performance :smileyhappy:)

 

Maxim

 

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billcerts
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Re: Similar Windows Interface for AutoCAD Mac?

06-29-2012 09:21 AM in reply to: tjarolimek

Hi Todd,

If the teacher of the class replied you are required to use Windows, he or she is a poor teacher, and likely to be more interested in teaching his or her way of using AutoCad, not helping you learn what you need to do to accomplish your goals.  You need to understand that there is no one way to work in AutoCad.  I have never met two people who use it the same way.  AutoCad is a powerfull tool that does many things.  You will find as you develop your own tools and methods to do what you need to do, that you are only using certain parts of the program. 

 

The real question is what kind of student are you.  If you are facile with computers and learn quickly, you will have no problems interpolating information to the Mac environment.  The interfaces look different, but the commands are the same.  Get a book on AutoCad for the Mac, as you have questions, you can look them up.  Don't be afraid of this program, just start using it the way you will be using it for work.  I hope this is helpful.

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tjarolimek
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Re: Similar Windows Interface for AutoCAD Mac?

06-29-2012 03:24 PM in reply to: maxim_k

Thank you both for your replies! I researched the programs and I honestly do not want to partition my hard drive, as I only have 256 GB of hard drive space. Is this a huge amount? Yes, but I don't want to split it up at this point. Plus, I'd much rather download the program designed for my Mac. I brought my PC and my Macbook, and will download both versions on both computers, and bring my PC with me to class to learn. I totally agree though, it is somewhat rediculous that the teacher won't make exceptions for students with Macs, as Macs are now close to either 1/5 or 1/4 of the laptop marketshare (?). The teacher isn't even a teacher, he's a teachers assistant, so possiliby that explains his lack of flexibility.

 

Is there a recommended book to purchase for AutoCAD for Mac use? 

 

Respectfully,

Todd J.

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tjarolimek
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Re: Similar Windows Interface for AutoCAD Mac?

06-29-2012 03:26 PM in reply to: tjarolimek

Additionally, I am an exceptionally intutive student and am able to grasp concepts quickly, so I feel like transfering the concepts while learning different interfaces and commands will not be difficult for me. At this point I think taking my PC to class will be the easiest and most cost effective option.

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Re: Similar Windows Interface for AutoCAD Mac?

06-29-2012 09:37 PM in reply to: tjarolimek

Hi Todd,

 

About the book(s):

 

One of the best books on AutoCAD for Mac (training - learning) I have seen is "AutoCAD 2011 for Mac: One Step at  a Time" by Timothy Sean Sykes. Although it is about AutoCAD 2011 for Mac, I think it is good place to start.


There is also another one book Mastering AutoCAD® for Mac® (also about AC 2011 for Mac).

 

And these video tutorials from lynda.com:

AutoCAD 2011: Migrating from Windows to Mac

 

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Re: Similar Windows Interface for AutoCAD Mac?

07-03-2012 10:53 AM in reply to: billcerts

It might very well be a requirement, and a valid one at that.  Consider that the instructor may provide plug-ins for verification of test drawings; or the instructor may not want to waste time trying to do Mac tech support instead of teaching AutoCAD.  I've seen students try to do similar things, and while they professed to be oh-so-very-good the instructor always ended up spending inordinate amounts of time covering non-related things.

 

Regardless, the instructor is in charge and thats not likely to change when you get to the workforce, either.  When you get to teaching, or supporting the software, or running the company, then you get to choose.

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Re: Similar Windows Interface for AutoCAD Mac?

08-28-2012 02:22 PM in reply to: tjarolimek

You can also use Virtual Box at http://virtualbox.org this is afree, not quite as robust as VMWare or Parallels, but the price is right. You can also of course do dual boot with Boot Camp for free.

 

Depending on the version mof AutoCAD that is required, you may also be able to run it on Wine, jsut do a google search for Wine OS X and you will find many ways to install it. This would be an option to avoid having to buy Windows completely, just check the compatibility list to make sure your version will work.

 

As for buying Windows, you can buy a cheaper version as a student, this may help.

 

AutoDesk offers free student versions to students the last I checked, so there should be no issue there.

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gregory
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Re: Similar Windows Interface for AutoCAD Mac?

08-28-2012 04:18 PM in reply to: tjarolimek

you should become a Mac AutoCAD teacher!  it's the future!

 

-G

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tgcsfo
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Re: Similar Windows Interface for AutoCAD Mac?

02-16-2013 01:24 AM in reply to: gregory

 

I know this thread is a little old, but I was hoping there might be some new solutions.  I did the switch from PC to Mac, but the AC 2013 interface is so different that it's really slowing me down.  Also the reference books I have no longer apply even though they're 2012.  I'm facing a big project and I'm wondering if I should:

 

- go back to my windows parallel environment (involves spending $ to upgrade)

- asking you guys if there is some sort of option to use the classic interface like there was on the windows side.  

- hope that someone has created a toolbar plug-in, I heard about one but every lead I followed didn't pan out.  

- The other option seems to be to watch tll the Lynda videos to see if I can just learn it.  The problem with that is that just about any office I work in will be running on PC.  It might actually be counter productive.

 

I still can't understand why Autodesk would make the two interfaces so different.  For those of you contemplating the switch, it's like being in a conversation where one person speaks Spanish and the other Italian.  You can understand the general idea, but the details get lost so you'll end up with more quesitons than answers.   

 

Has anyone found a solution?  This seems like a very common frustration, although the posts aren't recent, so dare I hope that someone has a solution????  

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