TSE Jumpers

[Anonymous]

I have been assigning jumpers between terminals in the TSE in order to create a jumper chart to show when a jumperbar is present. I have some issue with this and was wondering if there are workarounds. The first issue I have is that I am using this on fuses which have a 24vdc wire on one side and a different wire number on the other side. They are wire number change terminals in the schematic, yet when a jumper is assigned it is seeing it as a terminal with no wire number change. When I do an automatic wire number it forces both wires on each side of the fuse to be 24vdc. I need them to act as they originally did before the jumper was assigned. My second issue is that when a jumper is assigned, editing anything on that network of wires is EXTREMELY sluggish. For example, if I do an update source and destination symbol, any drawing that has these jumpers on that network will literally take 10 minutes to do each symbol. Without the jumpers its like I blink and there done. Something is not right somewhere. Software is ACADE 2009 SP2. Could someone take a look at these drawings to see what is going on?

[dougmcalexander]

The jumper command in TSE is intended to represent the connection of one terminal to another so they become a node at the same potential or wire number. It can represent the internal jumper between levels of a double-deck terminal block so the top and bottom of a double-deck terminal is one node and thus one wire number. I think you may be trying to go beyond the use of the tool.

[Anonymous]

"The jumper command in TSE is intended to represent the connection of one terminal to another so they become a node at the same potential or wire number. It can represent the internal jumper between levels of a double-deck terminal block so the top and bottom of a double-deck terminal is one node and thus one wire number"

So this tool is basically only useful for jumpering a top level to a bottom level? Would be really powerful if it could be used to show separate terminals that are jumpered together. If thats the case than I really dont have use for it. Would save our guys in the shop a lot of time from having to figure out exactly what terminals need a jumper bar or not.

[Anonymous]

The best way to jumper terminals is in the
schematic dwg.

You right click near the terminal, select edit
jumper, then select the terminals to be jumpered together.

When you go into the TSE, it wont show the jumpered
terminals in the graphical representation. You need the Tabular Terminal Strip
(Table Object) with the Jumper column inserted.

This will show Wire's in and out, Terminal Number,
and JUMPERS.

The other option is to draw up symbols to represent
your jumpers and add them to the graphical terminal strip
representation.

Regards Brad

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"The
jumper command in TSE is intended to represent the connection of one terminal
to another so they become a node at the same potential or wire number. It can
represent the internal jumper between levels of a double-deck terminal block
so the top and bottom of a double-deck terminal is one node and thus one wire
number" So this tool is basically only useful for jumpering a top level to a
bottom level? Would be really powerful if it could be used to show separate
terminals that are jumpered together. If thats the case than I really dont
have use for it. Would save our guys in the shop a lot of time from having to
figure out exactly what terminals need a jumper bar or
not.

[Anonymous]

1.  . .
size=3>This tool is basically only useful for jumpering a top level to a bottom
level?

No, jumpers can be assigned across terminals within the same strip using
TSE, regradless which levels you are selecting on which terminals. TSE is the
only tool that allows you to set internal jumpers independently from the ones
found in the catalog.

2.  . .
size=3>Would be really powerful if it could be used to show separate terminals
that are jumpered together

Besides the jumper chart you can use the tabular representation of the
strip (table object), where you can select the columns you want to be visualized
in the table and, in particular, the coulms for internal/external
jumpers.

3. Could you please attach the drawing(s) you were talking about in your
original message so we can have a look at?

Thanks,

Mauro

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"The
jumper command in TSE is intended to represent the connection of one terminal
to another so they become a node at the same potential or wire number. It can
represent the internal jumper between levels of a double-deck terminal block
so the top and bottom of a double-deck terminal is one node and thus one wire
number" So this tool is basically only useful for jumpering a top level to a
bottom level? Would be really powerful if it could be used to show separate
terminals that are jumpered together. If thats the case than I really dont
have use for it. Would save our guys in the shop a lot of time from having to
figure out exactly what terminals need a jumper bar or
not.

[dougmcalexander]

I do not use the jumper command. It did not exist in earlier versions and I have been using this program since 1997. I insert a wire layer between terminal symbols in the schematic. This wire layer is named jumper bar. Acad/E will ignore this layer in a wire from/to report so no worry about seeing jumper bars listed as wires to be connected. I use TSE to insert the strip but I insert my own footprint that looks like a jumper bar and has the appropriate attributes for Acad/E. I have a 2-point, 3-point, 4-point, 5-point, and 10-point pre-made with MFG and CAT filled in.

Go to the link below or search this forum for the word jumper bar. I have many postings about this subject.

http://discussion.autodesk.com/forums/thread.jspa?messageID=6082863? Edited by: dougmcalexander on Dec 19, 2008 4:29 PM

[Anonymous]

Mauro,
Could you please provide me with an email address to send some drawings to?

[Anonymous]

Also, If anybody else would like to look at a project that I am having problems with please let me know. I cannot post these drawings publicly.

[Anonymous]

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Mauro,
Could you please provide me with an email address to send some drawings
to?