Trying to Remove SmarTeam Interface on CAD Start-Up

[knight1fox3]

I was thinking this would be rather easy but it has proved more difficult than I thought.  Looking to prevent SmarTeam interface from loading when AutoCAD Electrical (2009) starts up.  I don't see this in any options or user preferences.  I can unload it once it has loaded but this doesn't prevent it from loading the next time.  I was thinking there would be a CAD start-up script file or equivalent which loads basic parameters and any applicable add-ins.  Any help or insight on this issue would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

[davidhall]

not sure if it helps, but check your acaddoc.lsp file to see if its loading from there

[rhesusminus]

It might be a demand load happening.

You'll have to go to the registry to find this.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Autodesk\AutoCAD\R18.0\ACAD-8001:409\Applications

(R17.2 for AutoCAD 2009)

See if you find a key there, that seems like it belongs to smarteam. Make a bakcup of that key before you delete it, and all it's subkeys.

THL

[knight1fox3]

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@davidhall wrote:

not sure if it helps, but check your acaddoc.lsp file to see if its loading from there

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I opened the LSP file with notepad and didn't see anything to reference a command to load SmarTeam.

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@rhesusminus wrote:

It might be a demand load happening.

You'll have to go to the registry to find this.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Autodesk\AutoCAD\R18.0\ACAD-8001:409\Applications

(R17.2 for AutoCAD 2009)

See if you find a key there, that seems like it belongs to smarteam. Make a bakcup of that key before you delete it, and all it's subkeys.

THL

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I checked that registry key and there is nothing there other than a (Default) type REG_SZ key. No subkeys in any subfolders either that reference SmarTeam. Thanks for the replies thus far guys. Any other suggestions are certainly appreciated. I suppose I could uninstall SmarTeam but I am thinking that might break things when CAD goes to try and load it and the program is just gone.

[rhesusminus]

You should also check HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Autodesk\AutoCAD\R18.0\ACAD-8001:409\Applications

THL

[knight1fox3]

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@rhesusminus wrote:

You should also check HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Autodesk\AutoCAD\R18.0\ACAD-8001:409\Applications

THL

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A lot more subfolders in that location, but nothing that references SmarTeam unfortunately.

[knight1fox3]

Not sure if this helps any, but here is the script from my command window when first starting AutoCAD:

Customization file loaded successfully. Customization Group: ELECTRICAL
Customization file loaded successfully. Customization Group: ACAD
Customization file loaded successfully. Customization Group: MORRIS-EXTRA
Customization file loaded successfully. Customization Group: EXPRESS
Opening an AutoCAD 2007 format file.
Regenerating layout.
Regenerating model.
Loading Electrical modules...
Loader application completed.
AutoCAD Express Tools Copyright © 2002-2004 Autodesk, Inc.
[Loading SmarTeam Interface for AutoCAD]
** SmarTeam integration was canceled.
[ConnectSmarTeam] Failed to Login/Register/Init SmCADInterface:1
Failed to initialize SmartDesk!
[Unloading SmarTeam Interface for AutoCAD]
AutoCAD menu utilities loaded.
AutoCAD Electrical menu utilities
loaded._.menuunload SMARTDESK
Unknown Customizaton Group: SMARTDESK
_.menuload C:/Program Files/SMARTEAM/SmartDesk/SmarDesk17.mns
Customization file loaded successfully. Customization Group: SMARTDESK
REDEFINE OPEN
REDEFINE INSERT
REDEFINE _-XREF
_.menuunload SMARTDESK
Customization file unloaded successfully. Customization Group: SMARTDESK
Autodesk DWG.  This file is a TrustedDWG last saved by an Autodesk application 
or Autodesk licensed application.
Command: COMMANDLINE

[rhesusminus]

Actually.. that might help a lot.

I can see that "C:/Program Files/SMARTEAM/SmartDesk/SmarDesk17.mns" loads. If there is a corresponding "C:/Program Files/SMARTEAM/SmartDesk/SmarDesk17.mnl" file there, I guess it will contain the lisp code that loads all the rest of the modules. Just rename the MNL-file to mnl.old or something.

THL

[knight1fox3]

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@rhesusminus wrote:

Actually.. that might help a lot.

I can see that "C:/Program Files/SMARTEAM/SmartDesk/SmarDesk17.mns" loads. If there is a corresponding "C:/Program Files/SMARTEAM/SmartDesk/SmarDesk17.mnl" file there, I guess it will contain the lisp code that loads all the rest of the modules. Just rename the MNL-file to mnl.old or something.

THL

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Interesting.  This is kind of weird.  In that directory, there is a file called "acad.LSP".  The script in that file is as follows:

( Load " C:\\Program Files\\SMARTEAM\\SmartDesk\\SmartDesk.lsp")

Then there is another LSP file called "SmartDesk.LSP".  Which I assume does the actual loading of SmarTeam.  So my question is, does acad.LSP tell AutoCAD what to load on start-up?  Could I delete that file or comment out that line?  I renamed the SmartDesk.LSP file to "SmartDesk_OLD.LSP" and it no longer loads on start-up.  However there is still something telling it to.  I am curious as to what actually tells AutoCAD to load the LSP file or files.  Here is my start-up scrip now:

Customization file loaded successfully. Customization Group: ELECTRICAL
Customization file loaded successfully. Customization Group: ACAD
Customization file loaded successfully. Customization Group: MORRIS-EXTRA
Customization file loaded successfully. Customization Group: EXPRESS
Regenerating model.
Loading Electrical modules...
Loader application completed.
AutoCAD Express Tools Copyright © 2002-2004 Autodesk, Inc.
; error: LOAD failed: " C:\\Program Files\\SMARTEAM\\SmartDesk\\SmartDesk.lsp"
AutoCAD menu utilities loaded.
AutoCAD Electrical menu utilities loaded.
Command: COMMANDLINE

 Thanks so much for all your help.  🙂

[rhesusminus]

Not wierd at all. At AutoCAD startup, it'll look for a file called acad.lsp, and execute whatever thats in this file. In your case, "load Smarteam".
It might be that it's enough for you to remove the path to Smarteam in AutoCAD's support search path.

THL

[knight1fox3]

Nope, that makes sense now.  What was confusing me is that there were 2 files both named "acad.LSP".  One in the Acade 2009 directory and another in the SmartDesk directory.  Removing the "load SmarTeam" line in the acad.LSP file located in Acade 2009 prevented AutoCAD from even trying to load SmarTeam.  Before it would still try but I renamed the SmarTeam LSP file so it still couldn't load, if that makes sense.  Thanks again for your help rhesusminus.