I am also biased toward AcadE. Several years ago after looking at several other packages, I decided on what is now AutoCAD Electrical, and have never regretted that decision. Some of the things that were important to me is that it is fully AutoCAD with all of ACADs power, customizable (menus, symbols, PLC build, etc), easy to use, it was best suited for my work environment, and it actually works. There may be some "nay-sayers" who will jump into this discussion, but they usually have some personal interest in whatever product they say is better. I, like many others in this forum, am just a plain user, with nothing to gain or lose personally by what I say.