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How to get subassembly parts into the BOM with their own unique item number: With version 2009 of AutoCAD Electrical ® you can assign an item number to parts listed under Multiple Catalog. Take for example a 1794-TB3 terminal board for A-B Flx I/O. However the problem is that this part may appear as a multiple catalog item under several "master parts", such as 1794-IB16, 1794-IR8, etc. AutoCAD Electrical ® 2009 normally displays all Multiple Catalog items beneath each master part they are associated with. This is because AutoCAD Electrical ® is reasoning that you want to see all components associated with each unique component Tag. But with a Tallied Purchase List Format you don't want to see Tag associations. Instead you only want a sum total quantity for each part number. You would not want to see 1794-TB3 listed in the BOM more than once, but only once with a sum total. In other words you want to see each Item number listed once on the BOM. Currently with AutoCAD Electrical ® 2009, even if you select a Tallied Purchase List Format, without the Tag column, you will still see a listing and sub-quantity for each 1794-TB3, under its associated master part. For example if the 1794-IB16 is item number 76 and the 1794-TB3 is item number 77, listed under Multiple Catalog, you would see them listed together and that would seem right. But then your 1794-IR8 might be item number 78 and in its Multiple Catalog list would be item number 77 again, because the 1794-TB3 is listed as a Multiple Catalog part under the 1794-IR8 as well as under the 1794-IB16. I know it looks strange because with the Tallied Purchase List Format you expect to only see each item number listed once.
Here is how I have gotten around this issue during the years that I have been using AutoCAD Electrical ®. I have had this scenario with fuses and fuse holders, control relays and their bases and clips, and with such parts as the 1794-TB3 Flex I/O terminal board.
What you have to do is think about the real world. Let’s say we want to produce a Panel BOM, which takes into account hardware items not normally shown in the schematic. I know this will take longer but this work-around will give you one listing per part number on your BOM. First of all forget using Assembly Codes or Multiple Catalog. These will not provide the report format you seek. There are two alternative approaches:
1> Insert a Generic Marker from the Panel Layout menu. A Generic Marker is basically a footprint with attributes but no geometry. You will see the MFG and CAT attributes that you assign. You can manually type in the tag of the master part it goes with if you want it to be a “surf-able” entity associated with the master part. I place the Generic Marker above or below by Flex I/O footprint. The footprint looks like a Flex I/O module plugged into a 1794-TB3 terminal board. So the master part number is assigned to the footprint. I then insert a Generic Mark above or below the Flex I/O footprint and assign MFG as AB and CAT as 1794-TB3. I manually type in the Tag assignment of the master that this 1794-TB3 is associated with. I leave the quantity at 1. I also assign an Item Number. I will insert a Generic Marker next to each of the Flex I/O footprints. Each will have a different Tag assignment but will carry the same MFG, CAT assignment. This will result in one listing for each Item Number, regardless of the master part it is associated to.
2> This method is “real-world”. You think of your panel footprints in pieces. For example, the 1794-TB3 is installed in the panel and the 1794-IB16 is then plugged into it. In the case of a control relay, you install the relay base, then the relay, and finally the clips. So with this method I actually create multiple footprints that each carry a complete compliment of Panel Footprint Attributes and are inserted one on top of the other, as if I were the panel shop technician installing the components. So in the case of the Flex I/O and its terminal board I split the Flex I/O footprint into two separate blocks, one to represent the 1794-TB3 terminal board and the other to represent whichever module will plug into it, such as 1794-IB16 or 1794-IR8. After I split the footprint into separate blocks I use the Symbol Builder to add the complete array of panel footprint attributes to them. I use a common base point for each footprint block so I can overlay them accurately. I usually insert the base device using the Browse feature on the Panel Layout Insert Footprint menu. I list the actual PLC module in the footprint lookup database and it is thus inserted using the Insert Footprint from Schematic List function on the Panel Layout toolbar. In other words, the actual part number that is common to both the schematic and the panel layout is the 1794-IB16 so this is the one I enter into the Footprint Lookup database. But the terminal board will only appear in the panel layout, so it gets inserted as a separate footprint using the Browse button. You can insert the terminal boards before inserting the modules (if you know how many you need), or you can insert the terminal board after you have inserted the module footprints.
Either of these methods will result in one listing per Item number/part number on the Panel BOM and a total quantity for that part.
Copyright (c) 2007 Douglas R. McAlexander All rights reserved. Edited by: dougmcalexander on Mar 11, 2009 9:26 PM
Doug McAlexander
Design Engineer/Consultant/Instructor/Mentor specializing in AutoCAD Electrical training and implementation support
Phone and Web-based Support Plans Available
Phone: (770) 841-8009
www.linkedin.com/in/doug-mcalexander-1a77623
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How to get subassembly parts into the BOM with their own unique item number: With version 2009 of AutoCAD Electrical ® you can assign an item number to parts listed under Multiple Catalog. Take for example a 1794-TB3 terminal board for A-B Flx I/O. However the problem is that this part may appear as a multiple catalog item under several "master parts", such as 1794-IB16, 1794-IR8, etc. AutoCAD Electrical ® 2009 normally displays all Multiple Catalog items beneath each master part they are associated with. This is because AutoCAD Electrical ® is reasoning that you want to see all components associated with each unique component Tag. But with a Tallied Purchase List Format you don't want to see Tag associations. Instead you only want a sum total quantity for each part number. You would not want to see 1794-TB3 listed in the BOM more than once, but only once with a sum total. In other words you want to see each Item number listed once on the BOM. Currently with AutoCAD Electrical ® 2009, even if you select a Tallied Purchase List Format, without the Tag column, you will still see a listing and sub-quantity for each 1794-TB3, under its associated master part. For example if the 1794-IB16 is item number 76 and the 1794-TB3 is item number 77, listed under Multiple Catalog, you would see them listed together and that would seem right. But then your 1794-IR8 might be item number 78 and in its Multiple Catalog list would be item number 77 again, because the 1794-TB3 is listed as a Multiple Catalog part under the 1794-IR8 as well as under the 1794-IB16. I know it looks strange because with the Tallied Purchase List Format you expect to only see each item number listed once.
Here is how I have gotten around this issue during the years that I have been using AutoCAD Electrical ®. I have had this scenario with fuses and fuse holders, control relays and their bases and clips, and with such parts as the 1794-TB3 Flex I/O terminal board.
What you have to do is think about the real world. Let’s say we want to produce a Panel BOM, which takes into account hardware items not normally shown in the schematic. I know this will take longer but this work-around will give you one listing per part number on your BOM. First of all forget using Assembly Codes or Multiple Catalog. These will not provide the report format you seek. There are two alternative approaches:
1> Insert a Generic Marker from the Panel Layout menu. A Generic Marker is basically a footprint with attributes but no geometry. You will see the MFG and CAT attributes that you assign. You can manually type in the tag of the master part it goes with if you want it to be a “surf-able” entity associated with the master part. I place the Generic Marker above or below by Flex I/O footprint. The footprint looks like a Flex I/O module plugged into a 1794-TB3 terminal board. So the master part number is assigned to the footprint. I then insert a Generic Mark above or below the Flex I/O footprint and assign MFG as AB and CAT as 1794-TB3. I manually type in the Tag assignment of the master that this 1794-TB3 is associated with. I leave the quantity at 1. I also assign an Item Number. I will insert a Generic Marker next to each of the Flex I/O footprints. Each will have a different Tag assignment but will carry the same MFG, CAT assignment. This will result in one listing for each Item Number, regardless of the master part it is associated to.
2> This method is “real-world”. You think of your panel footprints in pieces. For example, the 1794-TB3 is installed in the panel and the 1794-IB16 is then plugged into it. In the case of a control relay, you install the relay base, then the relay, and finally the clips. So with this method I actually create multiple footprints that each carry a complete compliment of Panel Footprint Attributes and are inserted one on top of the other, as if I were the panel shop technician installing the components. So in the case of the Flex I/O and its terminal board I split the Flex I/O footprint into two separate blocks, one to represent the 1794-TB3 terminal board and the other to represent whichever module will plug into it, such as 1794-IB16 or 1794-IR8. After I split the footprint into separate blocks I use the Symbol Builder to add the complete array of panel footprint attributes to them. I use a common base point for each footprint block so I can overlay them accurately. I usually insert the base device using the Browse feature on the Panel Layout Insert Footprint menu. I list the actual PLC module in the footprint lookup database and it is thus inserted using the Insert Footprint from Schematic List function on the Panel Layout toolbar. In other words, the actual part number that is common to both the schematic and the panel layout is the 1794-IB16 so this is the one I enter into the Footprint Lookup database. But the terminal board will only appear in the panel layout, so it gets inserted as a separate footprint using the Browse button. You can insert the terminal boards before inserting the modules (if you know how many you need), or you can insert the terminal board after you have inserted the module footprints.
Either of these methods will result in one listing per Item number/part number on the Panel BOM and a total quantity for that part.
Copyright (c) 2007 Douglas R. McAlexander All rights reserved. Edited by: dougmcalexander on Mar 11, 2009 9:26 PM
Doug McAlexander
Design Engineer/Consultant/Instructor/Mentor specializing in AutoCAD Electrical training and implementation support
Phone and Web-based Support Plans Available
Phone: (770) 841-8009
www.linkedin.com/in/doug-mcalexander-1a77623
Please Accept as Solution if I helped you. Likes are also much appreciated.
The Generic Marker is the first choice under the Panel Layout>Insert Footprint>Manual menu. Instructions and screen shots for using the Generic Marker can be found at www.ECADConsultant.com. Click on the Tips/Tricks page, and look for the article entitled, "How to get AutoCAD Electrical® subassembly parts into the BOM with unique item numbers".
Doug McAlexander
Design Engineer/Consultant/Instructor/Mentor specializing in AutoCAD Electrical training and implementation support
Phone and Web-based Support Plans Available
Phone: (770) 841-8009
www.linkedin.com/in/doug-mcalexander-1a77623
Please Accept as Solution if I helped you. Likes are also much appreciated.
Doug McAlexander
Design Engineer/Consultant/Instructor/Mentor specializing in AutoCAD Electrical training and implementation support
Phone and Web-based Support Plans Available
Phone: (770) 841-8009
www.linkedin.com/in/doug-mcalexander-1a77623
Please Accept as Solution if I helped you. Likes are also much appreciated.
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