Autocad Electircal missing and incorrect manufacture data

[Anonymous]

Hello

I am puting together our companys manfacuture database with the footprint.  I am finding manfacturing data incomplete and incorrect.  We use the Allen Bradley Compact 1769, the datbase description incorrectly identifies the equpment as micrologix not compactlogix and the footprints appear to be about 0.1" smaller than the drawing provide by Allen Bradley.  The products included in ACADE are not commonly used in the industries for which I am familiar.

There is a lot of work in seting up this information, is seems a wast that ever ACAD user has to develop their own libraries. Why provide incorrect libraries?

Why does it take so long to correct the errors?

Is their a website that distributes community develop footprints for industrial control panels?  I have found plenty sites for mechanical, architechual, and other but not for industrial control panel.   I need foot prints for Prosoft modules, Allen bradley 1769 compactlogix PLC, and emerson ROC RTU's.

Thank you,

Aaron

[ccad2509]

Well you hit upon "this is the Autodesk way of doing things"

From discussions with Autodesk representatives they want the component manufactures to completely supply all the details to Autodesk to include into their product without any cost benefit to the component manufacturers

So they cobble quite a bit from different sources and proudly tell everybody that they have loads of component data supplied with the product

That’s why the data is often patchy /out of date and my favourite of totally no relevance to us Europeans as we can’t by it

Different companies do it different ways

What Eplan has done it got the manufacturers on board and they have a live server which you can pull down component data and insert directly into your project which is updated almost daily what do the manufactures get?

Well they get the sales leads for their components feed back to them by Eplan which makes them happy

But you have to be happy because they will release more data in the next version

(They won’t get round to changing things unless it hits the embarrassment factor level)

And that is the key here component data is well down the list of things to do and correct

Just for fun google “Autocad electrical Parts Data” or a variant on that and see how many parts manufactures have Acade configured parts data on their manufactures website

Now do the same for “Eplan Macros” and see how many hits you get it’s pretty obvious from the parts manufactures who they prefer

Acade all new innovations have existed for a least ten years in the market leaders products you want to see what ACADE will look like in ten years’ time just go to the leaders and think how can Autodesk make a mess of that that great feature    

[automationstar]

Been using ACADE for 15 years, given this tidbit of info, considering changing horses midstream. Thanks!

[ccad2509]

it’s a major problem with Autodesk that they focus on what they think is the right thing and not take notice of what the market is doing Server based parts selection is now with the top sellers in the electrical cad market with the glaring exception of ACADE And while Autodesk been trying to drive a stake through the heart of promis e over the last 10 years the market innovator and leader has expanded its empire and now is knocking on the door in the US now with 10 dedicated offices selling electrical cad (no not part of a cad dealer that sells electrical cad as an afterthought) All the new innovation and features that ACADE released over the last few years has existed in other products for a number of years so it wasn’t even original in thought and quite often badly implemented So Acade is stuck between a very large rock (Eplan) and a hard place (trying to play catch up so it can at least offer the same features as the market leaders and yes ACADE is not in market leaders group ) Autodesk Has to get serious and throw some serious resources and money at ACADE otherwise it will stay stagnating in its own shrinking world FYI Ecscad is back with a vengeance which puts it on a straight head to head with ACADE it will be interesting how the Autodesk reps can now justify their product with a like for like competitor