Another Wipeout Issue

[cbenner]

Hi again,

Yes I looked this one up first, and even had a lengthy discussion in the Autocad forum on this issue.  Narrowed the problem down to the AcadE Component Icon menu.

Several blocks, including many of the out of the box symbols, have wipeouts built into them to accomodate extra long tags.  I noticed that when placing these symbols in a schematic, that the wipeout was... not wiping anything out.  This is true with WIPEOUTFRAME set to either 1 or 0.  After days of messing with the draw order and not having any luck.  I noticed that when opening the wblock file itself, the wipeout was just fine and working normally.  Inserting this block manually from the insert command also had it working normally.  Inserting the block in regular Autocad... no problem.  BUT, with the Component Icon menu pointing to the exact same block in the same location, and placing that block from this menu.... the wipeout does not work.

Here is the wblock as opened in AcadE:

Same block inserted with Icon Menu:

Same block inserted in Autocad from Command line with Insert:

Anybody else seeing this?  What gives?  Must be some check box somewhere... it usually is.

[rhesusminus]

What version of AcadE are you running?

I use wipeout frequently in both schematics and panel, and have'nt had any trouble with them even when inserting from the Icon Menu.

If you try to insert the component with a "command" in the icon menu instead, with the command:

(c:wd_insym2 "MyBlockName" nil 1 1)

Does that make any difference?

[cbenner]

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@rhesusminus wrote:

What version of AcadE are you running?

I use wipeout frequently in both schematics and panel, and have'nt had any trouble with them even when inserting from the Icon Menu.

If you try to insert the component with a "command" in the icon menu instead, with the command:

(c:wd_insym2 "MyBlockName" nil 1 1)

Does that make any difference?

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I am on Acade2013... all updates installed. 

I tried your command line, and it did the same thing.... 😞  (though I'll have to remember that one for later, thanks!)

[rhesusminus · Accepted solution]

Inserting the block "manually" after purging the drawing, with the INSERT command, does that work?

If so... will a (command ".-INSERT" "C:\PATH\MYBLOCKNAME.DWG") work from the icon menu?

[cbenner]

Thanks for all of your help, yes, your command line insert worked fine.  Then I noticed that, without explanation, the blocks were inserting correctly under all circumstances this morning.  Even in a brand new drawing, from the icon menu.... under the same conditions where it did NOT work 2 days ago.

I am done trying to figure out why this software does the things it does... it will only make me crazier than I already am.

But I am keeping your suggestions noted for future use.  Thank you!

[testsubject]

Rhesusminus hinted to this with purging: did you use swap/update block after making your edits? The original will still be there in the background until you do...

[pjfontes]

I've noticed strange things happen with the "recently used" items on the icon menu.  

Updating block definitions is not intuative with ACADE.  

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@cbenner wrote:

I am done trying to figure out why this software does the things it does... it will only make me crazier than I already am.

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[cbenner]

Hey Bob,

I was getting the same results in brand new drawings on brand new projects... until it magically started working yesterday without my changing anything.