No pdf's here - all browser based documents = pretty pointless
me too....they giveth & then they taketh away. Like all the old Profile functionality for EXISTING UTILITIES & LABELING.
My lazyboy does not have internet access.
Every time I make a note in the HTML manuals, it disappears when I wash my screen.
The stick notes for bookmarks are covering my screen!
Unfortunately, the worst thing from AutoDesk is the redundentcy in their manuals. the size of the manuals are impressive, the content sucks....I get it after reading it 2 or 3 time....but 8 or 10 times! Folks using this software are not computer illeritates.
Civil 3D 2012 ALL documentation, including Customization. WE WANT IT BACK in a format we can PRINT and read in the toilet!
Guess what - it's only getting better.
Have you looked at the plain-autocad or revit documentation for 2012? It's an online wiki.
As in Wikipedia, but for how to use the program. 10 to 1 C3D goes that way in 2013. Enjoy!
Don't worry, the Civil 3d Developers Guide is already a wiki.
I don't know who came up with that bright idea?
"Let's not write too much documentation, lets have the users do it for us." "Wow, we'll save heaps"
Forum -> Users helping users
Developer and User Documentation -> Software creators helping users operate their software.
"....Civil 3D 2012 ALL documentation, including Customization. WE WANT IT BACK in a format we can PRINT and read in the toilet!..."
With the size of some of those manuals, you'll never be stuck for toilet paper again.....!!!!!
I have never liked using browsers to read with. I would very much appreciate getting the PDF versions of help, tutorials, and manuals back and kept in future releases. It allows me to print areas that I want. I do well highlighting when I read.
I also agree, i like always having a hard copy of the manuals at my desk along with the electronic copies so that when asked a question by someone I can always take the hard copy to them and show them versus's having to waste more time to locate the item on each computer.
Know it it feels like with this new "help" system?
A typical voice mail system where you Press 1 to get this option, then 2 to get another, then.....etc., etc, etc
I WANT MY "PRESS ZERO FOR OPERATOR BACK"!!!!
I'm in front of a computer screen 9+ hours a day, I want a good old hardcopy (even if I have to print it myself) so I can read it AFK.
I also hate the new HTML help.
However, I have found a way to get the documentation converted over to PDFs. So far I have only done this with the Subassembly Reference, but it looks like it would work with the others as well. Here's what I did:
1) Make a copy of the C:\Program Files\Autodesk\AutoCAD Civil 3D 2012\Help directory ***IMPORTANT so you don't mess up the originals***
2) Find the folder with the guide you want to print. (Look in the address bar of your browser) In the case of the Subassembly Reference, the folder is "filesCSH"
3) The files are named GUID-<gibberish>-NUMBER.htm - those numbers tacked onto the end are in order of the documents. To get the files in order, you need to remove the first part, and make the files named just NUMBER.htm. (I padded the 1 and 2-digit numbers with zeros to help with sorting) I did this with a bash shell script, but could also be done more user-friendly with a batch-rename program such as Better File Rename.
4) Once renamed, you can convert these to PDF or easily batch print them in order. Acrobat Professional works well for this as you can batch convert & combine the HTML files into a single PDF in one operation.
5) If you want, you can edit the style/acad_html.css and style/acad_acr.html.css files and adjust the margins to better fit the page. Search for "220px", these are the values you want to change. I found 50px worked well for the Subassembly Reference.
I would be happy to convert the other major documentation (User's Guide, Tutorials, etc) and provide these PDFs publicly if I could get the OK from Autodesk somehow.
As a side note, some of the help files look a bit more involved. For instance the AutoCAD User's Guide has a different naming format, the names are not all the same length, and the numbers on the end are in hex. I haven't dug into these much, but at first glance they don't look to be quite in order after renaming.