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Wipeout and Textframe

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gccdaemon
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Wipeout and Textframe

Wipeouts, and Textframes work in plan view and print preview, but show as disabled in PDF when printed. They are on the same layer as my text so it's not on Defpoints or some other frozen/vp freeze/no plot layer. They do print to DWF propperly though. It also doesn't matter what the frame setting or transparency settings are nothing seems to work for PDF. Any ideas?

Andrew Ingram
Civil 3D x64 2019
Win 10 x64 Pro
Intel Xeon E5-1620
32 GB Ram
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Neilw_05
in reply to: gccdaemon

Wipeouts have not behaved in PDF's for as long as I've used them. I've never found a solution but you might get some hits from Google.

 

If you are using them to mask text, have you tried the Autocad text backgound command?

Neil Wilson (a.k.a. neilw)
AEC Collection/C3D 2024, LDT 2004, Power Civil v8i SS1
WIN 10 64 PRO

http://www.sec-landmgt.com
Message 3 of 12
gccdaemon
in reply to: Neilw_05

I use it all the time, but this is a file from another engineering company, and there is <gasp> no mtext. I went ahead and printed to DWF and then printed that to PDF with no problems. I've had wipeouts worrk as recently as 2012, so i guess Autodesk is killing out the older legacy items one by one, huh?

Andrew Ingram
Civil 3D x64 2019
Win 10 x64 Pro
Intel Xeon E5-1620
32 GB Ram
Message 4 of 12
Neilw_05
in reply to: gccdaemon

In spite of the problematic behavior of wipeouts over the years, they do still serve a purpose aside from masking text.

 

There may be a free utility to convert DTEXT to MTEXT without lumping it all into a single piece of MTEXT. I believe Terry Dotson has such a tool in his DOTSOFT TOOLPAC tools.

 

This is a good case for an enhancement request.

Neil Wilson (a.k.a. neilw)
AEC Collection/C3D 2024, LDT 2004, Power Civil v8i SS1
WIN 10 64 PRO

http://www.sec-landmgt.com
Message 5 of 12
mathewkol
in reply to: gccdaemon

Usually wipeoutsa that don't work in PDFs have to do with the drivers used to both print and view the PDF. Make sure to use the DWG to PDF driver to print and Adobe PDF reader to view.

Sometimes, there are settings during print that cause problems.

Sometime it just doesn't work.
Matt Kolberg
SolidCAD Professional Services
http://www.solidcad.ca /
Message 6 of 12
AllenJessup
in reply to: Neilw_05

Terry offers the TXT2MTXT.LSP for free at http://www.dotsoft.com/freestuff.htm

 

Allen Jessup



Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager

Message 7 of 12
gccdaemon
in reply to: AllenJessup

Expresstools has a convert text to mtext command which i normally use, but i'm not going to waste a bunch of time converting some 400-500 callouts. I did use the DWG to PDF when creating the PDF, and i think that's where the problem lies. I tried printing directly to Adobe, and got a blank sheet after a 5 minute hang up when printing. Like i said earlier, it works when printing to DWF first, then printing to Adobe from the DWF.

Andrew Ingram
Civil 3D x64 2019
Win 10 x64 Pro
Intel Xeon E5-1620
32 GB Ram
Message 8 of 12
AllenJessup
in reply to: gccdaemon

I always use the CutePDF writer (free) to plot and CutePDF (inexpensive) to edit. There seem to be much less issues. I have wipeouts in block that plot with no trouble. I don't use them in regular drawing much anymore.

 

Allen Jessup



Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager

Message 9 of 12
gccdaemon
in reply to: AllenJessup

Well, if you ask me it's got something to do with autocad's image handeling. That's the base of any masking that autodesk uses with an exception to mtext masking. I also use wipeouts in some of my boundary pin blocks, and never had problems before 2013. I think there are some internal components that autodesk has yet to complete in the programming, so i'll just chock it up to autodesks constat "Work in progress" programming. Thanks for all the input guys, i'm going to submit another ticket about this...lol.

Andrew Ingram
Civil 3D x64 2019
Win 10 x64 Pro
Intel Xeon E5-1620
32 GB Ram
Message 10 of 12
Neilw_05
in reply to: gccdaemon

Just an FYI,

 

The TXT2MTXT command in Express tools lumps all the selected text into a single MTEXT object, which you don't want. To avoid that you would have to run the command on each piece of text, which obviously is not practical.

 

The DOTSOFT TOOLPAC tools have the ability to convert multiple pieces of text while leaving them as separate entities. It's not free though.

 

Allen, does Terry's TXT2MTXT LISP tool work the same as the Express Tool or does it preserve the pieces as separate entities?

Neil Wilson (a.k.a. neilw)
AEC Collection/C3D 2024, LDT 2004, Power Civil v8i SS1
WIN 10 64 PRO

http://www.sec-landmgt.com
Message 11 of 12
AllenJessup
in reply to: gccdaemon

Actually. That one does combine them. This (attached) doesn't. But you might have to change the Justification afterwards to make it look right.

 

Allen Jessup



Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager

Message 12 of 12
troma
in reply to: gccdaemon


@gccdaemon wrote:

Well, if you ask me it's got something to do with autocad's image handeling. That's the base of any masking that autodesk uses with an exception to mtext masking. I also use wipeouts in some of my boundary pin blocks, and never had problems before 2013. I think there are some internal components that autodesk has yet to complete in the programming, so i'll just chock it up to autodesks constat "Work in progress" programming. Thanks for all the input guys, i'm going to submit another ticket about this...lol.


Did you mean chalk it up, as in, on a blackboard/chalkboard?  Smiley Wink

 

I have a lisp that converts text to separate pieces of mtext, maintaining original size, style, justification etc.  Can't remember where I got it; either on these forums or from Lee Mac.


Mark Green

Working on Civil 3D in Canada

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