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WHY DO I GET atmp**** AND sav****.tmp FILES WHEN SAVING SOME DWGS

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Message 1 of 17
Anonymous
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WHY DO I GET atmp**** AND sav****.tmp FILES WHEN SAVING SOME DWGS

WHY DO I GET THESE FILES WITH SOME DWGS AND NOT OTHERS? ANOTHER RESULT IS THAT THE .BAK FILE DOES NOT UPDATE ANY MORE AS THE MOST RECENT BACKUP. I MANUALLY DELETE THE atmp**** & sav****.tmp FILES OTHERWISE THEY KEEP ACCUMULATING.

 

 

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Message 2 of 17
jmayo-EE
in reply to: Anonymous

Did you set the Automatic Save location in the AutoCAD Options dialog to the project folder?

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Message 3 of 17
Anonymous
in reply to: jmayo-EE

It is set to the default user\appdata\local\temp location

Message 4 of 17
jmayo-EE
in reply to: Anonymous

Do you crash when you exit C3D?

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Message 5 of 17
Anonymous
in reply to: jmayo-EE

Nope, sometimes with this particular dwg I hit save and get a "Drawing is write protected" message and then save again and it works fine.

Message 6 of 17
brian.strandberg
in reply to: Anonymous

Is this folder a network location?

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Message 7 of 17
Anonymous
in reply to: brian.strandberg

No, this folder is on my hard drive although sometimes I do work throught the network on other dwgs with no problems.

Message 8 of 17
AllenJessup
in reply to: Anonymous

It sounds like a access/rights problem. If it were on a network the network speed could cause this. For some reason it can't overwrite the bak file. Things to check;

 

  • Attributes on the BAK file and the Folder rights.
  • If MOVEBAK is set.
  • Is ISAVEBAK set to 1

 

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Message 9 of 17
zoeyanne
in reply to: Anonymous

The files you see are created during the save process.  When you get the error that the drawing is write protected, that means the save process hasn't completed, thus the temp files remain instead of being renamed to the drawing name as they should have been during a successful save process.

Full save:

  1. Full SAVE (which may occur if ISAVEPERCENT>0 )
  2. SAVE the Model.DWG if a full-save occurs and SAVEBAK sysvar is enabled:
  3. Model.BAK deleted
  4. Model.DWG renamed to Model.BAK
  5. Model.DWG in RAM is written out to a .tmp
  6. The .tmp renamed to Model.DWG
  7. Model.DWG remains in RAM for current session.

Model.DWL & Model.DWL2 remain as-is (until user closes Model.DWG, at which time they are deleted.)

Incremental save:

  1. Incremental SAVE (which may occur if ISAVEPERCENT>0 )
  2. SAVE the Model.DWG when SAVEBAK sysvar is enabled:
  3. Model.DWG copied to a .tmp
  4. Model.DWG edits (changes currently in RAM since last save) are written incrementally the .tmp
  5. Model.BAK deleted
  6. Model.DWG renamed to Model.BAK
  7. The .tmp is renamed to Model.DWG
  8. Model.DWG remains in RAM for current session.

 

Message 10 of 17
wfberry
in reply to: zoeyanne

I think it should be noted that if ISAVEPERCENT = 0 is a FULL SAVE.

 

Bill

 

 

Message 11 of 17
mdhutchinson
in reply to: Anonymous

You said the files are on the hard drive on your machine?... and this is where these sav and atmp files show up?

Is this correct?

 

Are you, or your IT department using any software to keep other servers/machine syncronised?

 

Message 12 of 17
rkmcswain
in reply to: Anonymous

The .TMP files are almost certainly valid DWG files that could not be renamed to DWG during the otherwise normal SAVE process.

I wouldn't delete them until you're sure you do not need them

Try renaming one to a DWG and see if it opens.





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Message 13 of 17
Anonymous
in reply to: mdhutchinson

Yes the drawing files are on my computer. this doesn't happen with all drawings, so far this is the first.

 

 

No we don't use software to keep files synchronized, I do that.

Message 14 of 17
mdhutchinson
in reply to: Anonymous

We've had this issue now for nearly a year. Two support teams outside our company are working to find the solution.

I could write a book on the subject... but for us it wouldn't have a final ending.

 

Although I do have a question of late:

 

Of all the users having this issue... I wonder how many of them use Sheet Set Manager?... and

Could this be a factor?

 

http://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/autocad/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/Improvi...

Message 15 of 17
rkmcswain
in reply to: mdhutchinson

mdhutchinson wrote:

We've had this issue now for nearly a year. Two support teams outside our company are working to find the solution.

A year? How are you getting anything done? (Not trying to be sarcastic, just curious)

 

Who are these support teams? Independent? From Autodesk? From your server vendor?

 

Our similar issue was solved very easily by reverting back to a pure Windows server O/S.  Getting there wasn't easy, but once we did - we've had no issues since.

 

 

 

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Message 16 of 17
tcorey
in reply to: zoeyanne

Thank you Zoeyanne. Very well put.



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Message 17 of 17
Anonymous
in reply to: mdhutchinson

I do not use sheet set manager.

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