View Frame Label Issues

[djamison24]

I have a view frame group as a dref in my drawing.  I'm having issues with the labels of the view frames not being saved.  By default the labels are positioned in the top left corner.  I edit the labels and move them to the bottom center, put them into drag state, and change the style.  I get them to look exactly how I want them, then do a save.  However, when I reopen the drawing the labels are back to their default top left corner.  It is driving me and my coworkers crazy. Anyone know of a solution to this?

[DanBabb]

Was there any solution to this issue?

I'm using Civil3d 2016 SP3 and have that exact issue. Is it a system variable?

[qnologi]

Is "north" "not" north on your drawing? (twist)

Try changing the Label Behavior Orientation Reference from "Object" to "View", if you are in a viewport?

[DanBabb]

The viewport is set to wcs, not rotated. The view frame labels are changed from Basic to Standard style and dragged into position. Drawing is plotted, saved and closed. When I Reopen the file the styles name is the same, but the dragged state is lost as if someone applied the Reset Labels.

[DanBabb]

if I drag the labels and hit the synchronize the dragged labels will reset as described before. The view frames are data shortcuts.

[DanBabb]

I changed the orientation to view, but the dragged state continues to reset when the data shortcut is synchronized.

I tried using the Toggle Label Pin, but that too fails upon synchronizing.

thus far it's only View Frame Labels that have this issue.

[Jeff_M]

I had never had a need to Dref VFG's so I did some quick tests. I opened an older drawing having premade VFG for a short alignment, created a DataShortcut, started a new drawing, added a Dref for the VFG, dragged the labels, saved, synchronized, and they stayed as I had changed them. Then I changed the style, saved, sync'ed. No change. So I closed the Dref dwg, changed the location of one of the VF's, reopened the Dref dwg, the VF I had changed updated correctly and the labels stayed in their dragged state. So, I'm wondering if the large number of VF's & labels your drawing has may be to blame...otherwise, I don't have any other ideas.

[DanBabb]

You could have something there as my VFG has 200 sheets and alignment is nearly 35 miles.

I'm open to any suggestions but limited on time. We're near submittal, so recreating alignments and VFG isn't an option. This project is divided into 3 sections. I'm creating a sheet layout drawing for each section. What about promoting the VFG and deleting a third of the view frames in each sheet layout drawing? The file names and sheets won't be changing, so that may work if that is the issue.

[DanBabb]

That seems to work because there is no synchronizing to screw it up!
Now we need Autodesk to resolve the issue with Dref VFG's.