AutoCAD Civil 3D General Discussion

AutoCAD Civil 3D General Discussion

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RickNichols
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User Percentages Civil 3D vs. Land Desktop

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11-12-2007 08:47 AM
Is there any current data showing percentages of firms that have made the jump? I know that the quick surveys during C3D webcasts appear to show the majority of the users working in C3D now. I don't know how accurate that may be though.

rick
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Sinc
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Re: User Percentages Civil 3D vs. Land Desktop

11-12-2007 09:00 AM in reply to: RickNichols
Well, I think the results are skewed there, because people who do not have C3D or are not planning a move to C3D in the very near future would have little reason to watch the webcasts. So of course most of the people there are using C3D.

This DG would have the same problem, if we created a poll asking how many of us are using C3D. Naturally, most people would respond that they are, indeed, using C3D. Do the same poll in the Land Desktop group, though, and you'd probably get a different answer.

From what we've been able to tell, talking with people from other companies, we are definitely one of the few in this area using C3D. There aren't a whole lot at this point, and only one of the thirty-odd companies we work with regularly has switched. But there are several others who are contemplating it, and a couple of them have even started the process of learning C3D, although they are still using Land Desktop for production. And of course, there are a couple who started to use C3D and gave up in disgust before working through the initial learning curve.

I still have quite a few people downloading my old Sincpac routines for Land Desktop, although they seem to be drawing less interest than they did four months ago.
Sinc
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RickNichols
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Re: User Percentages Civil 3D vs. Land Desktop

11-12-2007 09:15 AM in reply to: RickNichols
That is the reason I thought the numbers would not be accurate as well. But I am still curious if Autodesk has real numbers for comparison.
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Re: User Percentages Civil 3D vs. Land Desktop

11-12-2007 09:37 AM in reply to: RickNichols
Do you really think they'd share them? The closest thing to impartial
(and it was still funded by adesk,) is the CE News poll.

http://www.civil3d.com/2007/11/ce-news-on-3d-modeling/

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James Wedding, P.E.
Engineered Efficiency, Inc.
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The Blog: www.civil3d.com
The Book: www.masteringcivil3d.com
C3D SP2 Mac Book Pro, XP SP2, 3GB
*Laurie Comerford
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Re: User Percentages Civil 3D vs. Land Desktop

11-12-2007 12:46 PM in reply to: RickNichols
Hi,

Another consideration is that in countries which have a different software
history - ie Softdesk/Land Desktop was not the dominant Civil Software, the
take-up and use of Civil 3D is likely to be significantly different from the
North American experience.

I don't have any numbers, but would expect Civil 3D take-up and use in
Australia would outnumber Land Desktop by a significant factor.

The Australian scene is further different in that CADApps have filled two of
the major weaknesses of Civil 3D with their Advanced Road Design (and it's
derivatives like Corridor Ezy) and Stringer products.

--

Laurie Comerford



wrote in message news:5775247@discussion.autodesk.com...
Do you really think they'd share them? The closest thing to impartial
(and it was still funded by adesk,) is the CE News poll.

http://www.civil3d.com/2007/11/ce-news-on-3d-modeling/

--
James Wedding, P.E.
Engineered Efficiency, Inc.
The Site: www.eng-eff.com
The Blog: www.civil3d.com
The Book: www.masteringcivil3d.com
C3D SP2 Mac Book Pro, XP SP2, 3GB
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RickNichols
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Re: User Percentages Civil 3D vs. Land Desktop

11-12-2007 01:52 PM in reply to: RickNichols
I guess a little background in why I am asking.

Our office has been using C3D for about 3 years now. We are currently in the process of merging with another firm that is using Land Desktop. I have been told by a few individuals from the other office that this is going to be an issue.

I recently received an email from a future colleague that had these quotes in it.

"The rest of the industry does not seem eager to switch to a whole new platform"

"To me it doesn't makes sense to switch to Civil 3D until the rest of the industry switches and AutoDesk stops support Land Desktop."

I was hoping to get a percentage of users on both showing that "the rest of the industry" is making the switch.
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jpostlewait
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Re: User Percentages Civil 3D vs. Land Desktop

11-12-2007 01:59 PM in reply to: RickNichols
Tell him most of the Country's leading firms are at least partial users and the future direction is clear.
If you wait for the rest to switch you will be in last place.:-)
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RickNichols
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Re: User Percentages Civil 3D vs. Land Desktop

11-12-2007 02:06 PM in reply to: RickNichols
Trust me, I have said those exact words many times.
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mike.barkasi
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Re: User Percentages Civil 3D vs. Land Desktop

11-12-2007 08:15 PM in reply to: RickNichols
James,

Additionally be aware that Autodesk certainly did not create the 3D model, as it has been in use in Transportation solutions provided by Bentley Systems for many years. Respondents to the pole may also be coming from those groups. :-)

Michael Barkasi
Bentley Systems
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Message 10 of 24 (213 Views)

Re: User Percentages Civil 3D vs. Land Desktop

11-13-2007 04:38 AM in reply to: RickNichols
Our reseller was amazed I am trying 3d. They have very little interest expressed. I only use it for the corridor function. Everything else I use LDD.
Ann Wingert, P.E.
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