After playing with pressure pipes in C3D 2013 and in C3D 2015 I still haven’t found a use for the tool. Has anyone established a work flow for actually using this tool in C3D. Below is a list of shortcomings that has prevented me from using the tool:
This is just a list that I came up with in about 10 minutes. Has anyone been able to create a construction plan set using this tool? If so do you mind sharing how.
I have yet to use them in a Production environment but because it's a relatively new feature users would like it customized & set up at our company.
I spent some time a while ago looking into customizing parts etc.
Due to the lack of feedback I received on customization of Pressure Pipes it seems like they may not be getting much use yet.
Many of the shortcomings on your list are accurate based on my findings with the 2014 release. Can't comment on 2015 as I don't have it installed yet.
The only Pressure Pipes Catalog I'm aware of for purchase is this one offered by ATG Services.
Simply found this via Google search when I was looking into it and know nothing about the product.
Here's my recent post on the topic and my thought process but I kind of got stuck when I couldn't find a decent means to blend any of these parts from one incomplete catalog to the next (I'm talking just for consistency in the included) DIP parts. Once I dug into it I realized there needs to be a lot of blending between items offered in Mechanical vs. Push-on etc. to accommodate our current workflow. Then the PVC and HDPE etc. need to be created as well.
If there was a way to blend portions of the SQlite parts files it would save a lot of setup time.
Thanks for the reply Jay_B
From the minimal responses I am guessing most people are in the same boat I am in.
I was hoping that this post would help me see the use for pressure pipe objects in C3D, but as for now, I think I am going to put this tool back on the shelf and wait for another release.
Every release I rush to check and see if this is something we can justify implementing and every realease my mind is blown by how terribly supported this feature is.
I have found this parts package, It had just about everything I needed. Plus, they told me they are working on over 5000 additional parts to add within the next year or so. They were awesome to work with.
These parts look great for modeling, but they won’t be useful for creating a paper plan set. This is where the discontinuity exists in pressure pipe networks.....getting from a great looking model to a set of plans that can be taken into the field.
Please expand on the "not ready for paper plans". Would like to see what you are thinking there. As far as pressure pipes go, I believe they are ONLY good for paper plans and actually work very well with styles and labels. That is if it is all set up properly. Most firms I see using it are only using it for plan production, not even profile or anything more.
There are a few items in my original post, but here is an outline of some items could think of off the top if my head:
1. Scaling fittings. At a typical plan scale 1"=20' a fitting will look like a drop of ink from the printer. This is not very useful to a contractor reading the plans.
2. Creating fitting clusters. How do you annotate a cluster of fittings? Usually I use the station/offset of one of the fittings and then build the cluster off of that location. All fittings are grouped into the single leader with one location.
3. Restrain delineation. How do you delineate a wedge style mechanical glad (restraining) vs a standard mechanical gland. What about PVC C900 bell restrains?
I am not saying these items can't be accomplished; however, that’s what my original post was about........."How do we make a real set of construction plans that are to industry standards and very professional looking." I haven’t seen or been able or figure out how this can be accomplished.