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Message 1 of 22
MonkeyTrainer
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UNDO!

what is up with the undo command in c3d 2013? if i erase a line and zoom out a couple times, i have to hit the undo command like 30-40 times! i know that undo applies to zooming, but it has never been as bad in 13 as it has been in other versions. i almost hate using undo now, but as we all know we need it. any thoughts? 

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Message 2 of 22

SP1 installed?



Todd Rogers
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Message 3 of 22
sjg
Advisor
in reply to: MonkeyTrainer

Check OPTIONS, User Preferences tab, Undo/Redo, combine zoom and pan commands. See attached image.
Steve Goessling
Land Consultants
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Message 4 of 22
MonkeyTrainer
in reply to: sjg

i do have sp1 installed, it took a minute.

 

i like to be able to undo my zoom. i am just talking about normal commands. i threw the zoom in my description because frankly it doesnt matter what i do it seems as though i have to undo a lot more times than the commands i have put in. i know that when i update grading or a corridor it goes through various commands but, these are simple commands to undo.

Message 5 of 22
TCARCAMO78
in reply to: MonkeyTrainer

I have the same problem. I'm still working with Autodesk on this issue. This is what I have learned. After you have installed all the services packs and hot fixes. Delete the C3D icon your desktop and create a new one. Open C3D, go to options and rebuild all your network connections in the Files tab. Save the profile. If you test out the undo command it works fine. Here is the issue I have seen. If you close C3D and right click on the C3D icon on your desktop and select properties If you rename the target profile name such as from <<C3D_Imperial>> to your new profile this is where things go wrong. When I reopen my C3D everyone looks OK but my UNDO command is back to not working correctly. It will take you like 10 undo to undo a pan or zoom. If you don't rename the target profile on your desktop icon from C3D_Imperial, every time you open C3D, you will have to go into options and set your profile. This can be annoying unless I am missing something. Since I never close my C3D I just leave my target profile the default. I never had this problem in all the past versions but this version has been a pain. 

 

 

Tony

CAD Manager

www.tonyscivil3dworld.blogspot.com

 

Tony Carcamo
CAD Manager
www.tonyscivil3dworld.blogspot.com
Message 6 of 22
MonkeyTrainer
in reply to: TCARCAMO78

hmm, ok. <easy button> . well, i may have to look into trying this out. thanks for the post TCAR. so, Autodesk is aware that their undo button may go a little crazy sometimes?

Message 7 of 22
t4duzan
in reply to: MonkeyTrainer

This should fix the Undo problem. Right click over your C3D 2013 icon and choose Properties. Look to make sure your Start in: target is as follows: "C:\Program Files\Autodesk\AutoCAD Civil 3D 2013\"

 

I believe Autodesk added a folder an extra folder for what ever reason and the acad.exe was not in that folder and caused the Undo issue.

Message 8 of 22
trevj
in reply to: MonkeyTrainer

Do you use (at the command line) undo -> mark? This means you can do undo -> back to reinstate everything since you placed the mark.

Message 9 of 22
AllenJessup
in reply to: MonkeyTrainer

Is this the Undo command from the keyboard. Until you find a solution you might want to use the Undo on the Quick Access toolbar. This will let you highlight all the commands that you want to undo. I usually use the keyboard but this way can be handy for multiple undos.

 

Allen Jessup



Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager

Message 10 of 22
luim_24_01
in reply to: MonkeyTrainer

This problem persists in c3d 2014 to zoom and scroll with the mouse wheel, this is annoying ... I thought that the 2014 version would fix this problem.

Message 11 of 22
kyriaki
in reply to: MonkeyTrainer

HELP! I do have the same problem with UNDO command, since i've installed civil 2013. SP1 already installed, but the annoying problem still exists Smiley Mad. eg i erase a line.. Undo. Line isn't erased. If i go to the drop down menu of Undo, i find hundred of commands 'Group of commands'. What is going on?????

I read almost all forums, tried every suggestion but nothing.

I thought 2014 could solve my problem, but as i can see from the posts it won't Smiley Sad

I am a user of autocad since r2003 and i've never dealed with such a problem.

Message 12 of 22

We have been having the same issue with the Undo not working correctly and I was hoping Autodesk would have fixed it in Civil 3D 2014 but it's not but I finally figured something out.

 

I started doing some testing with Civil 3D 2013 and 2014 and I have confirmed this with both versions.

I first started testing to make sure it wasn't our custom shortcut or our custom profile and that wasn't causing the probrem, so I then started testing our template that we make for each version and I noticed that if I start a brand new drawing using our template that the Undo doesn't work, so then I decided to use the standard template out of the box and wouldn't you know it the Undo worked and I couldn't break it. So now with the same session open with 2 drawings open using the same shortcut to launch Civil 3D and using the same custom profile I can have 2 different files open using 2 different templates and sure enough the Undo problem occurs in our drawing that was using our template but the template that came with both version works fine.

 

So the problem is within the file/template, which makes sense now to me because some users will say it works fine in this drawing but not in this other drawing, but now I have no clue on how to fix this because an audit/recover doesn't work, about the only thing we could do is remake our template from the standard template, bring in all of our styles and save it as our new template and then wblock stuff from old drawings into this new template, ya way to much work.

 

Well Autodesk hopefully this will help you and hopefully you can help us figure out what's in the drawing file that is making the Undo fail.

 

Thanks

Brent Morris

Message 13 of 22

Bump for any solutions to this.

My options have already been toggled correctly & yet the 'undo' issue still lives.

 

And what is the deal w/ the undo 'buffer' message getting displayed in large files?

Thanks All.

-Ron 

Message 14 of 22
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: MonkeyTrainer

40 times! I'd say you're getting off easy. I've seen 300 and more group comands in my undo buffer after 1 command and a pan zoom.

Good Grief! I struggled through an SR on this and I cant be 100% sure but it seems to be an issue with moving earlier version DWT files to 2013 by saveas? The instructions I recieved is to always create your dwt from scratch............................I'll wait for the other shoe to drop
Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)

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Message 15 of 22

Yes, all settings are correct.

 

I have done more testing this morning and I think I know what is causing the Undo to fail.

 

I have narrowed it down to Associative Hatching that will cause the Undo to all of sudden list every mouse zoom as an Undo command and as soon as I take off the associative hatching then the Undo command will work and will combine all the mouse zooms into 1 undo command.

 

Could someone verify this and see if you get the same results.

Start a brand new drawing by using Autodesk Civil 3D template "_AutoCAD Civil 3D (Imperial) NCS.dwt" which is located under C:\Users\Your User Name\AppData\Local\Autodesk\C3D 2013\enu\Template.

Save the drawing before you do anything, then just drawn a couple of lines, then using your mouse middle button to zoom in and out, then go to the Undo icon pull down and you should only see a few undo commands. Now draw a rectangle and hatch it with Ansi 31 and do not make it associative hatch yet, once done save it, then using middle mouse scoll button again zoom in and out and then go back to the undo and again you should only have a few Undo commands.

Now let's see if we can break it, now select the existing hatch and make it associative hatch, now save the drawing, now just draw a line, check undo, now use middle mouse button to zoom in and out, now go back to the Undo and in my testing you should get a whole bunch of Undo commands.

 

I would also be curious if you take an existing drawing that you know you are having problems with and if it by chance has hatching in it select it and see if it's associative hatch and if it is turn it off and see if that fixes that drawing.

 

I have doubled and tripled checked everything and with all my testing I have concluded that Associative Hatching causes the Undo command to not combine all the zoom in's and out's into 1 Undo command like it suppose to.

 

So now if I can get other people to test this and reply back to this post then maybe Autodesk can get to work on it to solve this problem.

 

Thanks

Brent Morris

Message 16 of 22

Correction, I meant to say Annotative versus Associative, so replace Annotative for the word Associative in my previous reply

 

Sorry about that.

Brent Morris

Message 17 of 22

I have been able to confirm on 3 different machines that the Undo command will fail if we have just 1 hatch that is set to annotative hatch and this only happens in Civil 3D 2013 SP2 and Civil 3D 2014 No service packs.

I have tested this also in Civil 3D 2012 SP3 and the Undo works fine and I couldn't break the undo by using annotative hatching at least with SP3.

I have also tested this with ADT & MEP 2013 & 2014 and the problem only exists with Civil 3D 2013 & 2014 and only if there is just 1 piece of annotative hatch within that drawing.

 

It doesn't matter if the HPAnnotative system variable it 0 (off), if there is 1 piece of hatch within that drawing that has annotative hatching turned on within a Civil 3D 2013 or 2014 drawing then the Undo doesn't work correctly.

 

I have been able to take the Civil 3D 2013 & 2014 drawings that have this problem and change every single piece of hatching and turn off the annotative hatching and the Undo will start working for that drawing jsut like it's suppose to.

Message 18 of 22

By now I even copy stuff to an empty drawing in case I might want to undo something. From my point of view this is by far the most annoying thing ever
Message 19 of 22
Message 20 of 22

I have SP2 installed for 2014 and I still have the issue. I've been using 2015 a little more with no issues.

Vincent Sheehan

Sr. Civil Designer
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