If the wrong backsite is used, normally one can edit the backsight info and azimuth, and re-compute coordinates. It shouldn't be that difficult to fix the data I would hope.
That can all be edited in the setups under the survey database...
Try right-clicking on the opened survey database name in tool space. You will find the translate database command. THat allows you to move and rotate the whole database. You can also change the vertical datum. If you have a bad shot (rod height, backsight point, etc.) you can edit the setup to fix the bad points. Once you get usaed to the different workflow, it is not bad. The other C3D features definitely outweigh the drawbacks. (My 2-cents)
THANKS TO EVERYBODY FOR THEIR INPUT. I USED THE ERASE/UNDO AND TO MY SUPRISE IT WORKED!!
I ALSO TRIED IT WITHOUT AN ERASE/UNDO AND THAT WORKED AS WELL.
SO I AM JUST PUZZELED WHY I CAN MOVE/ROTATE POINTS NOW AND FOR THE LAST
FIVE YEARS WE'VE NOT BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT.
SO NOW I GOT TO GET OUR SURVEY DEPT. TO LEARN THE SURVEY MODULE.....LOTS A LUCK WITH THAT.
I assume the OP is importing .txt or .csv files through the survey database. By using this method you cannot move the points, they are locked. When we first made the move to C3D we also found this annoying.....in LDD you could move the point around much easier so I feel for your survey crews. That said, they need to move out of the past and into the present. Knowing that your survey points can't be moved is much more of a benefit than a hindrance. You know longer have to worry about them, once there in the drawing/database they are in, end of story.
It sounds like your crews need to edit there RAW data on occassion, as most crews do. The old (LDD) way may have been to move a range of points up or down to fix a bad HR/HI, or to rotate them around the correct backsight, etc. In fact, your RAW suvey data should be updated to reflect the proper values and then reimported. Once you and your crews wrap your head around getting the data right before you input it into CAD you'll be $ ahead.
If you import your points through the points>import/export points menu and not the survey database you have the ability to do whatever you want with your points, similar to LDD days.
I would not recommend the erase/undo method as this has the possibility to create huge issues in the future and anyone trying to follow in your footsteps.
Whoever "trained" you gave you some bad information. It is perfectly easy to rotate survey points that have been brought into a drawing.
You can use Eric Collins' suggestion, which is what I prefer, or you can use Todd Rogers' suggestion, which is perfectly legitimate but does not address the underlying issue of your import event still having incorrect information.
To those of you who do Civil 3D training, a piece of advice: If you don't know the answer, don't say it can't be done, say you don't know. It's hard to say that -- you're being paid to be the expert -- but no one knows everything and your clients will understand that. There are few things more annoying than thinking something can't be done, only to find out later that it can but you just believed the instructor.
If you're paying for training and the instructor dismisses a question with no it can't be done, don't believe it. There is a solution to almost anything you want to do with Civil 3D. It might be a workaround, but you can almost always get the job done.
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