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This looks interesting, Interactive Terrain Modeling

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Message 1 of 39
Jeff_M
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This looks interesting, Interactive Terrain Modeling

Anyone tried it out yet?

http://labs.autodesk.com/utilities/civil3d_terrain/

 

C3D2012-x64 only at this time.

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Message 2 of 39
ToddRogers-WPM
in reply to: Jeff_M

I played with it this morning and I'm already not a big fan of it.  Personally, I would rather use grading groups.



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Message 3 of 39
brianmcgough6538
in reply to: Jeff_M

I've not actually played in it yet, but I watched the videos. I hope this is indicative of where Civil 3D is headed because I believe it's much more intuitive and requires the user to learn less about the software so they can spend more time designing. I am also excited about the work flow and the impact that the use of solids should have on final deliverables.

Message 4 of 39
mathewkol
in reply to: Jeff_M

This is cool indeed.  i have been using it for a little while, not extensively.  There are some nice tols for ponds.

Matt Kolberg
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Message 5 of 39
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: Jeff_M

The introduction video was a tad long in the tooth after working 12 hours, but I'll give it  a closer look with fresh eyes.

 

I did get a kick out of the Ytube description:

The Interactive Terrain Shaping technology preview provides users with a unique workflow for developing grading proposals in AutoCAD® Civil 3D® 2012 software. The primary goal of this effort is to provide a holistic approach to terrain shaping that allows users to go from concept to completion using the same model. The intent is to facilitate the development of comprehensive grading plans that can be easily tuned through the project cycle

 

Holistic approach? I usually reserve that phrase for tooth-aches, and other medicinal remidies suggested by my Micro -Biotic - Vegan friends, not grading Ideas from Autodesk.

 

Here's a thought! While in the lab, how about working on the current grading tools. Smiley Happy

Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)

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Message 6 of 39
neilyj666
in reply to: Joe-Bouza

I'll be installing later today and will look at the videos etc over the next day or so - it looks interesting

 

I'd also agree with Joe on grading tools - perhaps the inherent bugginess has been ironed out now and crash/bug free grading tools will be in C3D 2013 (Oops!!! just drifted off into dreamland then......)

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Message 7 of 39
AllenJessup
in reply to: Joe-Bouza

I know it's become a buzz-word for certain types of pharmacology. But the usage does fit.

 

ho·lis·tic  /hōˈlistik

Adjective:

Characterized by comprehension of the parts of something as intimately
interconnected and explicable only by reference to the whole.

 

Allen
 
 

 



Allen Jessup
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Message 8 of 39
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: AllenJessup

ho·lis·tic/hoʊˈlɪstɪk/ Show Spelled[hoh-lis-tik] Show IPA
adjective
1.
incorporating the concept of holism in theory or practice: holistic psychology.
2.
identifying with principles of holism in a system of therapeutics, especially one considered outside the mainstream of scientific medicine, as naturopathy or chiropractic, and usually involving nutritional measures.
 
ho·lism/ˈhoʊlɪzəm/ Show Spelled[hoh-liz-uhm] Show IPA
noun Philosophy .
1.
the theory that whole entities, as fundamental components of reality, have an existence other than as the mere sum of their parts. Compare organicism ( def. 1 ) .
2.
Also, holiatry. Medicine/Medical . care of the entire patient in all aspects.
3.
Psychology . any psychologic system postulating that the human mind must be studied as a unit rather than as a sum of its individual parts.
 
Where did you get yours, mine came from dictionary dot com 
 
Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)

HP Z210 Workstation
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Note: Its all Resistentialism, so keep calm and carry on

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Message 9 of 39
ralstogj
in reply to: Jeff_M

Guys

 

I loaded it on to my work pc that 64 bit yesterday and had a bit of a play yesterday and today at lunch time

Crashed it once most likely because I did my own original workflow not the programmers. Generally I like the concept as grading is all about 3d planes and intersections i like the object based solution. I will continue to play with it when I can at worK as only have 32 bit at home:(

 

Would like to give constructive feedback to Autodesk but its unclear where you post it other than here or to some email at the labs.

 

 

Regards

Justin Ralston
http://c3dxtreme.blogspot.com/
Message 10 of 39
AllenJessup
in reply to: Joe-Bouza

Typed "Define Holistic" in  Google. It was at the top of the page. Looks like they have their own dictionary now.



Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager

Message 11 of 39
GZE
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in reply to: Jeff_M

I have downloaded and run the installation file but I cant find the additional ribon tab on my civil 3d 2012 UKIE 64bit. What might be the problem?
Humphrey GZE
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Message 12 of 39
neilyj666
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Did you also load the cui as instructed? My ukie 64 bit worked fine but it removed the SIncpac ribbon

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Message 13 of 39
Jeff_M
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@neilyj666 wrote:
 My ukie 64 bit worked fine but it removed the SIncpac ribbon


Any editing of the CUI will remove the Sincpac tabs. This is a 'feature' of Autocad when ribbon tabs have been added programatically. Just type in SPRIBBONENABLED to get them back. Or, the next time you restart C3D they will be back as well.

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neilyj666
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Thanks - they did comeback after c3d was restarted

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Message 15 of 39
GZE
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in reply to: Jeff_M

thanks neilj it is working now.
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Message 16 of 39
neilyj666
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🙂

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Message 17 of 39
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: AllenJessup

Well you are a Master, so I'm going with it <G>Smiley Wink

Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)

HP Z210 Workstation
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Message 18 of 39
neilyj666
in reply to: GZE

Only managed to watch the videos so far - is this the death knell of the TIN being sounded??

 

The convert to solid seems to take a long time (8 minutes for the pond example) but on the size of model being demonstrated the gradings seemed to be quick to construct and edit. I wonder how it would perform on a larger model??

 

I've never been a big fan of gridded volumes (prefer triangular as better accuracy).

 

On the plus side it's good that a lot of the tedious intermediate steps are not visible to the user - although new users may not appreciate exactly what the software is doing and why - if this is understood, troubleshooting is much easier.

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Message 19 of 39
GZE
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in reply to: GZE

I managed to load TS cui and the terrain tab in my ribbon, but when i close civil 3d and start a new session the terrain tab disappears until i load it again. how can i make it stick to my ribbon?

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Message 20 of 39
ToddRogers-WPM
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Do you have Automatically Save Workspace Changes on in your Workspace Settings?  It's off by default.



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