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neilyj666
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Suite versions of software

My understanding is that the version of Map that civil 3d is built on isn't quite the full standalone version.

what are the differences between the software in the infrastructure design site premium compared to the standalone versions e.g raster design, 3ds, revit structure and how much practical difference do any differences make?

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neilyj666
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That would make sense - will need to wait and see....:)

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Message 22 of 51
AllenJessup
in reply to: neilyj666

I should have been more positive in my reply. Last year when someone from Autodesk was pushing the suite I checked it out with our reseller. That's what they explained to me. So I'm sure that we would get a separate full seat of Map 3D. But unless you want to use TopoBase. There won't be much call to use that instead of what's built in to Civil.

 

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Message 23 of 51
neilyj666
in reply to: AllenJessup

It's a lot more convenient to just switch the Workspace in Civil to get the Map stuff than open an instance of Map as well as Civil

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Message 24 of 51
AllenJessup
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I've been going over the Infraworks Suite webpage. It looks like anyone with the Premium version AND on Subscription gets all the modules except the Roads and Highways Module. Their gird is a little messed up. They don't show Roads and Highways or River and Flood Analysis as part of Premium. But the  River and Flood Analysis Module has the same double asterisk [**] as the Bridge, Geotechnical and Rail Layout Modules. That ** note says:
 
**AutoCAD Civil 3D 2014 is included in Infrastructure Design Suite 2014 Premium and Ultimate editions. This module is only available to Infrastructure Design Suite 2014 Premium and Ultimate edition, Subscription users and is not available in stand-alone AutoCAD Civil 3D 2014 software
 
So that makes it look like River and Flood Analysis would be available in Premium subscription customers. But since it's contradictory I'm not sure which is right.
 
The only thing I've been able to find out about the Roads and Highways Module is
that it would allow you to do preliminary road design in Infraworks. I don't know if that's anything we really need. There's very little information out about it so far. I can't watch Youtube at work. Has anyone found more information on Roads and Highways?
 
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Message 25 of 51
neilyj666
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My understanding is that Roads and Highways & River and Flood Analysis is part of Ultimate and that Bridge, Geotechnical and Rail Layout Modules are part of Premium

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Message 26 of 51
AllenJessup
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Mine too. But then I saw the note. So now it's ambiguous until someone clears it up.

 

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Message 27 of 51
tcorey
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Take a look here: http://www.autodesk.com/suites/infrastructure-design-suite/included-software

 

This grid lists what software and add-ons come with each suite. Roads & Highways for Infraworks and River & Flood Analysis definitely only come with the Infrastructure Design Suite Ultimate.

 

One piece of good news: Revit Structure comes with Premium now. Revit (the single install version that includes architecture, structure and MEP) only comes with Ultimate.

 

Tim

 

 



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Message 28 of 51
neilyj666
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what does Revit Structure do?

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Message 29 of 51
DarrenP
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i know with civil 3d & revit structure it helps with bridge modeling

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an example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMiWClmUPSg&playnext=1&list=PLgYKCHjym6mTSIOvNvJvFzJ_M7H-okpLA

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Message 31 of 51
AllenJessup
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Yes. That's been what I've been looking at. River and Flood Analysis is not checked for Premium, only Ultimate. However River and Flood Analysis has a double asterisk after it. I've quoted the note above. That makes it seem that it is available to Premium suite Subscription users. So is the note written incorrectly, am I reading it wrong or is the grid wrong?

 

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Message 32 of 51
BrianHailey
in reply to: AllenJessup

According to THIS, those are only available in the Ultimate edition.

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Message 33 of 51
AllenJessup
in reply to: BrianHailey

So it look like the note is just a little off or I'm not reading it correctly.

Allen



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Message 34 of 51
tcorey
in reply to: AllenJessup

Yes, I agree that asterisked note could be more clear. There should be a ** for the modules that come with both Premium and Ultimate, and there should be *** for those that come only with Ultimate. 

 

I will forward the link to this thread to our marketing support manager at Autodesk.

 

Tim



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Message 35 of 51
DarrenP
in reply to: AllenJessup


@AllenJessup wrote:

Yes. That's been what I've been looking at. River and Flood Analysis is not checked for Premium, only Ultimate. However River and Flood Analysis has a double asterisk after it. I've quoted the note above. That makes it seem that it is available to Premium suite Subscription users. So is the note written incorrectly, am I reading it wrong or is the grid wrong?

 

Allen Jessup


no your reading it right it does say at the bottom that the river and flood is included in premium and ultimate but the chart says only ultimate

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neilyj666
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and following on from this, AutoCAD 2014 seems to exist as vanilla AutoCAD rather than "Start Civil 3D as AutoCAD" judging from the location of the acad.exe file.

Does this mean that is why the download is so bloated as we have Vanilla AutoCAD, Vanilla Map as well as the versions that Civil 3D is built on??

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Message 37 of 51
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@neilyj666 wrote:
and following on from this, AutoCAD 2014 seems to exist as vanilla AutoCAD rather than "Start Civil 3D as AutoCAD" judging from the location of the acad.exe file.

Does this mean that is why the download is so bloated as we have Vanilla AutoCAD, Vanilla Map as well as the versions that Civil 3D is built on??

Yes, as to why the suites include regular AutoCAD I have no idea. I can kind of see why they included Map since C3D doesn't include every feature of Map, but regular AutoCAD? That's just pointless, makes the download bloated, and just adds to more software you think you're getting. 

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Message 38 of 51

Some of the features in vanilla Autocad are also unavailable in Civil 3d.


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Message 39 of 51

Interesting - such as??

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Message 40 of 51

Model Documentation.

 

In the general section - Viewbase command

 

http://docs.autodesk.com/CIV3D/2014/ENU/readme/readme_civil.html



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