Structure Label Loses Reference to Alignment

[Anonymous]

So I've cut my sheets using plan production tools. I add my parts back to my profile in these new sheets ( I have the originals in the drawing I cut the sheets from). After I label the pipe & structures I close the drawing, reopen it, and I lose the reference to the alignment on one of my structures, so I change it, and go through the same procedure, and get the same results.

I'm sure someone else has experienced this because it has happened on other projects we have here. Does anyone have any advice on what could be causing this?

Thanks!

Brent Daley
Civil Designer/CAD Services Manager
The Land Group, Inc.
462 E. Shore Drive, Suite 100
Eagle, ID 83616
www.thelandgroupinc.com

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[Anonymous]

OK, so I've solved that problem. My structure was refererencing a different alignment in the drawing I cut the sheets from. So if they match it will hold.

So here is another question, what about when you have your entire piping as one network, and you have a T intersection, so on one street you want to reference one alignment, and on the other street you want to reference that alignment, but in the original drawing you are doing the data shortcut from you can only pick one alignment, meaning in one of your streets that structure label is not going to hold the label, you will get the infamous STA: ??+????, ?.??.

[dbliss51]

Assuming there is a structure at this intersection, I have had to add a duplicate structure for the other alignment. So there would be two structures at the same intersection, one for each alignment.

[Anonymous]

AUTODESK PLZ FIX! Yeah, try making a structure table with the alignments in that drawing. Basically the alignment override doesn't work.

[tshulbert]

We found the Multiply Owned Objects Error and removed the conflicting enties (see link below) and the reference reattaches.

http://beingcivil.typepad.com/my_weblog/2010/08/warning-multiply-owned-objects.html

[Citadel2012]

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@Anonymous wrote:
OK, so I've solved that problem. My structure was refererencing a different alignment in the drawing I cut the sheets from. So if they match it will hold.

So here is another question, what about when you have your entire piping as one network, and you have a T intersection, so on one street you want to reference one alignment, and on the other street you want to reference that alignment, but in the original drawing you are doing the data shortcut from you can only pick one alignment, meaning in one of your streets that structure label is not going to hold the label, you will get the infamous STA: ??+????, ?.??.

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If I am understanding you correctly, you are trying to label one part with station and offset labels from 2 alignments, like in the attached pictures? If so, the solution is to create a new label style with a reference text component (specific to alignment). When the label style is applied to a structure, you can grab the label and look at the properties editor, where a field to select a reference alignment is shown. 

With this method, there would be no need to create duplicate parts on seperate networks. The network would still have a base surface and alignment, just the labels would reference the intersecting alignment. Hope this helps.

[sca24580]

I can't seem to get this to work with profile labels, when labeling structure offsets. I have intersecting streets Main and State. If I label a structure in the the Main Street profile view as described by Citadel2012, the offset label for Main Street will show 0.00, even though the structure does not land right on the alignment. The offset label for State seems to work. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
On a side note, if the alignments do not intersect, the offset will show the offset from one alignment to the other, NOT from the alignment to the structure itself.