AutoCAD Civil 3D General Discussion

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randyspear6624
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Structure Invert Label Order?

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01-23-2014 05:37 AM

I use a structure label to label pipe invert and directions in profile but there doesn't seem to be any logic to the order in which it displays them. Example, I have a pipe run in a left to right profile going from west (upstream) to east (downstream); some of the time the inverts will label the east inverts first which means it appears on the west side of the structure. Technically nothing is wrong because I have the direction included in the label but it just makes sense to display them on the same side as the pipe (where possible).

 

The only reason I can think of for this is that the label style is looking at the object ID's for the connected pipes and ordering by that....

 

Any thoughts?

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Jay_B
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Re: Structure Invert Label Order?

01-23-2014 06:08 AM in reply to: randyspear6624

We use the 3rd party Sincpac C3D for this. It has a SortConnectedPipes command which sorts the inverts in descending order in structure labels.

 

Using OOTB Civil 3d the only way is to try to Connect the pipes all in order AFAIK. 

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troma
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Re: Structure Invert Label Order?

01-24-2014 06:53 AM in reply to: Jay_B
Which means that if you have four pipes connected at an intersection and you have a West-East profile and a South-North profile, it is totally impossible to get the inverts to show up in the right order in both profiles.


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Jeff_M
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Re: Structure Invert Label Order?

01-24-2014 07:07 AM in reply to: troma
What is the 'right' order? We always place them with the smaller pipes first and label the direction from which they come or go. So as long as the smallest incoming pipe is first, and the outgoing is last, it is consistent throughout the project.
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troma
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Re: Structure Invert Label Order?

01-24-2014 08:19 AM in reply to: Jeff_M
Well, isn't that nice for you! :smileywink:
I understand that 'right' is a relative term for this.
For us, (& for the OP too if I read correctly) we want West on the West, East on the East, North on the North, South on the South.


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randyspear6624
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Re: Structure Invert Label Order?

01-25-2014 06:13 AM in reply to: Jeff_M

Sorry, I probably didn't explain thoroughly. I have the label rotated 90 and anchored to graph bottom with an offset to appear as though it is a data band (AFAIK you can't achieve directions with data bands). So we want the upstream invert on the upstream side and vice versa, that isn't always the case.

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Re: Structure Invert Label Order?

01-25-2014 06:16 AM in reply to: Jay_B

Thanks for the tip. We don't have enought user base in C3D to justify purchasing addtional tools yet.

 

I dont have it front of me right now but are you saying I could disconnect my pipes and then reconnect them in order to achieve this?

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Jeff_M
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Re: Structure Invert Label Order?

01-25-2014 12:56 PM in reply to: randyspear6624
That's correct, Randy.
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