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Based on the request made in this thread, I checked with our DLS team who is conducting the drainage design technology preveiw on InfraWorks 360. here is the answer I recieved.
Perhaps you could enlighten us on any design reasons why the Drainage Design module is being developed for InfraWorks 360 and not a more technical design solution like AutoCAD Civil 3D?
InfraWorks 360 is ideally suited to provide the engineer with the ability to engineer large-scale preliminary designs in context and allow them to collaborate with multiple stakeholders virtually anytime and anywhere. With the two vertical applications extendig the InfraWorks 360 capabilities, one for Road and the other for Bridge Design, the engineer has the ability to design and evaluate multiple proposals while providing a richer, immersive experience for both the roadway and bridge engineer.
Autodesk Drainage Design for InfraWorks 360 Preview has the same goal in mind – provide the engineer, the ability to design, engineer, and evaluate drainage proposals for a large-scale projects quickly in the rich immersive experience. As a recent customer has indicated, “It’s not suprising that 3D models and visualizations are better at conveying designs that are, after all, 3D in nature.”
Technically, the InfraWorks Drainage Design Preview contains the ability to delineate watersheds and streams across large terrain surface by utilizing the Watershed Analysis for InfraWorks 360 Cloud Service Preview. This preview functionality leverages the benefit of the cloud to process larger terrain surfaces, computing the watersheds and streams, in significantly less time. While AutoCAD Civil 3D provides watershed calculations for surfaces, and catchments for design surfaces , the larger terrain surfaces needed for projects provide a challenge of both compute power and cycle time for AutoCAD Civil 3D.
Scott Sheppard
Program Manager
Autodesk Labs
Autodesk, Inc.
Thanks, Scott. A little heavy on the marketing-speak but informativen nonetheless. We have a number of offices in different cities with different focuses, and there have been discussions on how to better leverage that when a project in another city requires expertise they don't have locally. Clouds for coordination are a little early in the lifecycle to adopt now but I certainly see the potential for both sharing and large-scale computing.
One thing I've noticed from the ReCap 360 program is a drastic slowdown in processing speed/increase in processing time once higher-end features become more popular. There's a natural lag between demand and adding more servers to meet that demand, so better expansion planning for all of the AutoDesk 360 products would be appreciated.
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Because it's to do with the Cloud, therefore it is marketable and will get development time thrown at it...
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Scott,
We need our Corridors to help us with an arduous and tedious task that civil design shops everywhere face continually. We need to speed up this design task to eliminate bottlenecks in the construction plan production workflow, and get product out the door.
The placement of on-grade inlets is governed by the Minor Storm. This is because the Minor Storm street capacity is more stringent because no curb overtopping is allowed.
As you know the tributary Catchment located to the side of the street grows as you move down the street checking for capacity..This recalculation becomes tedious for the engineer.
Starting at the top of the hill and looking down the Corridor, the Corridor would light up Green for as long as the street capacity criteria are met. Then the Corridor would begin to light up Red where street capacity criteria are not met. The start of the Red zone is where we need to place an Inlet to take flow off the street to meet capacity requirements. The Catchment is then finalized tributary to that Inlet.
The Inlet bypass flow is sent down the Corridor road surface. The Corridor now lights up green again past this first Inlet, and a new tributary Catchment grows, until street capacity is exceeded once again. Then go through the steps above…and on and on…
Thank you for the detailed use case. I am sure the AutoCAD Civil 3D Product Managers, who comb the forums routinely, can consider it in their planning.
Scott Sheppard
Program Manager
Autodesk Labs
Autodesk, Inc.
Fred:
For me personally, my background is software engineering. I am about coding and testing. My blog post today talks a little about where my focus is:
ANother thing I do is monitor the Labs feedback. When I see anything about Labs mentioned in the forums, I try to get a subject matter expert to answer it, or I take a shot at it myself. So when the Drainage Design / Watershed Analysis technology preview for InfraWorks 360 was mentioned here, I ventured over.
Scott Sheppard
Program Manager
Autodesk Labs
Autodesk, Inc.
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